2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.

S4 to S5 Swap Wiring Harness Question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 15, 2011 | 12:29 AM
  #26  
Anton_26's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
From: Minneapolis, MN
Thanks guys, Im going to get to this soon. Just finished installing the motor in my 50 chev pickup
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2011 | 10:49 AM
  #27  
86rx786's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
From: St. Cloud, MN
*cough*
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2011 | 11:12 PM
  #28  
Anton_26's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
From: Minneapolis, MN
my b i forgot no one on here cares about chevy trucks right
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2011 | 11:37 PM
  #29  
86rx786's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
From: St. Cloud, MN
Originally Posted by Anton_26
my b i forgot no one on here cares about chevy trucks right
hahahaha
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2011 | 03:05 PM
  #30  
Anton_26's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
From: Minneapolis, MN
would it be possible to use the S5 ECU with the S5 engine in an S4 car? by jumping the pins to the chassis harness? Or should I stay with the S4 ECU
Reply
Old May 30, 2012 | 08:23 AM
  #31  
Lkp_rx7's Avatar
Jackal
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
From: CT
Probably a dead thread but what about the C.A.S plugs? Any diagrams on what needs to be cut and spiced there? Ive been trying to figure this out for a day or two now.
Reply
Old May 30, 2012 | 08:43 AM
  #32  
satch's Avatar
Moderator
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 11,738
Likes: 16
From: tulsa,ok.
Originally Posted by Lkp_rx7
Probably a dead thread but what about the C.A.S plugs? Any diagrams on what needs to be cut and spiced there? Ive been trying to figure this out for a day or two now.
If you're putting an S5 engine in an S4 and are using the S5 sensors and S5 ECU then look at post #2 in the link provided and there are two S5 wiring diagrams. One depicts the wiring necessary. If the S5 Emmision harness is used it should be rather simple.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...egi+fuse+blows
Reply
Old May 30, 2012 | 10:10 AM
  #33  
Lkp_rx7's Avatar
Jackal
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
From: CT
Originally Posted by satch
If you're putting an S5 engine in an S4 and are using the S5 sensors and S5 ECU then look at post #2 in the link provided and there are two S5 wiring diagrams. One depicts the wiring necessary. If the S5 Emmision harness is used it should be rather simple.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...egi+fuse+blows
Nope running an s5 motor in my s4 with s4 harness and t2 ecu. i have an extra hacked s4 and s5 ecu for parts too
Reply
Old May 30, 2012 | 11:20 AM
  #34  
satch's Avatar
Moderator
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 11,738
Likes: 16
From: tulsa,ok.
So your CAS is S4? And what year is your S4? The 86 S4 CAS connects differently then the 88 S4 I believe. One doesn't have an intermediate connector while the other one does.
Reply
Old May 30, 2012 | 04:45 PM
  #35  
Lkp_rx7's Avatar
Jackal
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
From: CT
Originally Posted by satch
So your CAS is S4? And what year is your S4? The 86 S4 CAS connects differently then the 88 S4 I believe. One doesn't have an intermediate connector while the other one does.
My Cas is a jspec s5 while my harness is s4. I am not sure what year because i bought then randomly on the site. Ive gone through all the wire on my harness and nothing matches up. But when i go to one of my s5 harnesses the plug is there just shy of the solenoid plugs.
Reply
Old May 31, 2012 | 02:23 PM
  #36  
DeMoe Aurelius's Avatar
Teeterin on Grip & Drift
Tenured Member: 15 Years
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 539
Likes: 3
From: In the desert!!! Victorville...
Everything wires up the same with the S4 harness to the S5 engine. The coolant temp sensor on the block is flat instead of round and there is a extra sensor on the rats nest on the S4. Everything will work. Is your car TII or NA? If its NA there are wires you HAVE to pull at the ECU to get the car to start and run.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2012 | 01:36 PM
  #37  
Lkp_rx7's Avatar
Jackal
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
From: CT
The plugs
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2012 | 01:47 PM
  #38  
Lkp_rx7's Avatar
Jackal
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
From: CT
S4 harness and s5 harness the s5 has the cas plug I need. so what do i do about the s4
Attached Thumbnails S4 to S5 Swap Wiring Harness Question-2012-06-03-19.27.59.jpg   S4 to S5 Swap Wiring Harness Question-2012-06-03-19.26.58.jpg  
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2012 | 05:59 AM
  #39  
Lkp_rx7's Avatar
Jackal
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
From: CT
help bump
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2012 | 08:48 AM
  #40  
satch's Avatar
Moderator
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 11,738
Likes: 16
From: tulsa,ok.
So you have an S5 CAS, an S4 Emission harness (this is the harness which connects to the CAS on one end and the ECU on the other, and last but least, Your ECU is an S5? Is this all correct?
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2012 | 10:48 AM
  #41  
Lkp_rx7's Avatar
Jackal
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
From: CT
Originally Posted by satch
So you have an S5 CAS, an S4 Emission harness (this is the harness which connects to the CAS on one end and the ECU on the other, and last but least, Your ECU is an S5? Is this all correct?
nope the ecu is s4 also. so its
s5 parts/ hack harness
s4 n332 rtek 1.8 ecu
s4 em harness but with no cas plug
jspec s5 motor with block off plates
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2012 | 11:36 AM
  #42  
satch's Avatar
Moderator
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 11,738
Likes: 16
From: tulsa,ok.
I knew you were going to say that!

Do you also realize you need S4 engine sensors to use an S4 ECU? Such as the AFM, Pressure Sensor, TPS and so on?
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2012 | 12:10 PM
  #43  
Lkp_rx7's Avatar
Jackal
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
From: CT
Originally Posted by satch
I knew you were going to say that!

Do you also realize you need S4 engine sensors to use an S4 ECU? Such as the AFM, Pressure Sensor, TPS and so on?
yup i have an n318 pressure sensor, s4 modded throttle body, s4 afm. omp pump blocked with with pineapple racing plugs and plate. modded ignition coil, relocated power steering pump etc........
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2012 | 02:28 PM
  #44  
DeMoe Aurelius's Avatar
Teeterin on Grip & Drift
Tenured Member: 15 Years
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 539
Likes: 3
From: In the desert!!! Victorville...
If your missing the CAS plug from you s4 harness then use the FSM and Chase the wires down and use the connector from your S5 harness. If your running the n332 then your injectors are for low imp. I'm not sure about use of stock S5 injectors like I did on my first swap. the car is s4 your harness is s4 engine is S5. Universal clip like cas. Use from the old harness since your missing it. Extend BAC and if needed TPS wires. You made this hell of a lot harder then it needed to be. I got my wiring done in 2 hours the 1st time.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2012 | 03:44 PM
  #45  
HAILERS2's Avatar
Rotary Freak
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,660
Likes: 2
From: FORT WORTH TEXAS
The CAS plug and wires are part of the ENGINE harness on a series four and it mates with the Front harness so the signal on the CAS wires can make their way to the ECU.

Seems you don't have a series four ENGINE harness and probably no Front harness either.

I guess you do have a EM harness which does not have CAS wires in it if series four.

On the series five the CAS wires are in the EM harness, unlike a series four car.
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2018 | 06:28 AM
  #46  
xapruda's Avatar
Junior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: trinidad
Originally Posted by Derekcat
http://homepage.mac.com/carldavis/intake.html
Is more or less what they're suggesting you do.

I know it's possible to install an S5 ECU and engine wiring harness, but I know no details of how to do it.
Links not working do u have any more info on this?
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2018 | 12:11 AM
  #47  
XBLADE's Avatar
Backyard Mechanic
Tenured Member: 15 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 276
Likes: 2
From: Pompano, Florida
You can use the s5 harness and s5 ecu if you get the s5 body harness plug and some of the wire to match the s5 ecu plug slot. Which is what I was going to do at first. I bought the s5 plug, and decided to just go haltech sprint RE since I planed on just paying someone to wire it up anyways. Car is 87TII with JDMs5TII swap.
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2018 | 10:35 AM
  #48  
Rotary Alkymist's Avatar
My mom lets me redline
Tenured Member: 10 Years
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 600
Likes: 132
From: Cornwall, ON
Ok, so you want to do all of this time consuming/money devouring work just to turn around and drop a 350 into it? That seems like such a waste of everything. A 350 swap is damn expensive. Why don't you just buy some dice and hang it up in a nice used mudstain?
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
The Shaolin
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
9
Sep 14, 2015 07:50 PM
82streetracer
1st Generation Specific (1979-1985)
7
Aug 23, 2015 09:28 AM
BLK 93
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
4
Aug 19, 2015 03:47 AM
Professorpeanutrx7
New Member RX-7 Technical
5
Aug 15, 2015 01:38 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:48 PM.