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Old 06-05-04, 11:24 PM
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s4 manifold or s5 manifold on n/a s4?

which gives better power numbers on a s4 n/a motor??
-s4 ported intake manifold
or
- s5 ported intake manifold
or
-stock s5 intake manifold

tell me what you think and throw in some input to back your theory. thanks alot
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On a otherwise stock or lightly ported S4 motor, the S4 LIM with S5 upper (VDI) intake will provide the best increase in HP.

But on a moderate ported or heavy ported the S4 upper and lower will provide the best power.
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why not the s5 lower..... i know there is another port for some function that the s4 does not have but im sure that is no big deal or is it?
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i also have a stock port s4 engine just for reference
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The entire S5 intake manifold has been dyno proven to provide less power than the stock S4 manifold on a S4 non turbo motor.

The advantage of the S4 LIM/S5 UIM combo is that the much larger S4 LIM runners allow better flow. In fact the S5 UIM/VDI section will need to be slightly ground/ported/port matched to the S4 LIM to get reasonable flow gains.
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icemark has spoken......wise words.....i bet not too many people know thats the best combo
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so um, any idea if that would work for an S5 motor? the S4 LIM/S5 UIM combo i mean. my knowledge of the S4 NA when there are differences is very lacking .
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im gonna have to take a look at the s4 lim and compare it to my s5 lim and compare them.... but the s5 intake manifold i have is gasket port matched.
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Originally posted by bingoboy
so um, any idea if that would work for an S5 motor? the S4 LIM/S5 UIM combo i mean. my knowledge of the S4 NA when there are differences is very lacking .
Now remember this is for non turbo motors...

The S5 motor follows a simular set up, that if you have a stock motor (or a very mild street port) the stock S5 intake system, port matched and cleaned up internally will give you the best power.

But for moderate to heavy ported S5 motors, a port matched S4 intake system will produce better power.

These are all based on testing both real world and at a dynojet up here in Northern CA, but I think you will find most of the big or better engine builders will agree.
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thanks alot for all this info icemark
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