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Old 11-29-06, 09:28 AM
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S4 Engine Install

Well guys, its about that time. I just bought a 1987 GXL 5 spd, that gold color for $400. The previous owner overheated the engine and cracked a rotor housing. I'll be installing a newer/used motor, and just a wanted a little advice. Are their any tips/tricks i can take in? Also, anything to watch for. Keep in mind this is my first time installing a FC Engine, so all the help would be appriciated. I don't need a step by step tutorial, i can figure that out on my own with a service manual. Just wanted to see if anybody had any tips on what to look/watch out for. Ive got all the tools you would think a person would need. Im into the FD world, so its a little different. But i used to own a Black GTU, and had to let her go . Its time to start anew, and have my old FC back again. The motor that is in the car, do you think its fixable? I havne't had a chance to take it out and tear it down yet. But what are the possibilities of something else being fried? I'll swap the motor in that im buying, it has 85K on it, but the blown one in the car only has around 30K, so if it is fixable i might have it sent off and built up and have some major porting done . Sorry for the long post, if anybody has some advice please feel free to let me know. Thanks,
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if it over heated its toast especially if it cracked a housing
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Eh...the guy drove it from Dallas TX to Abilene w/o any radiator fluid. Said he didn't realize it had a leak until it was too late. Some of the parts MIGHT be salvagable, but if any, probably a small portion. Any body else? Bump to top.
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Eh...the guy drove it from Dallas TX to Abilene w/o any radiator fluid. Said he didn't realize it had a leak until it was too late. Some of the parts MIGHT be salvagable, but if any, probably a small portion. Any body else? Bump to top.
Wow, thats a really long way for no radiator fluid.
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how could he ignore all the smoke? that really IS a long way w/ no fluid. have you seen any good deals like that in a while? Im looking for an FC with a blown motor too...
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I picked up my 88 gtu for $500. Kid thought it was blown. As soon as i got the titled i pulled the inj fuse and unflooded the car. He looked pissed when i started it up and drove off haha.
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Is the motor that you are going to install an S4 or an S5? You said it was newer but did not specify how much newer. This is very important information to give so that you can get straight answers.

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S4, sorry, i thought i put that on their. Yea i got really lucky on this one, just happen to run across it one day just sitting by the curb, knocked on the guys door, and bam! I now own the car.
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I'll be sure and purchase that...thanks for all the input guys. More is appriciated if anybody has time.
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Well then basically just pay attention to what goes where and it should be very simple. The only thing that I found to be easier for me was pulling the tranny with the motor. I also installed a new tailshaft seal, changed gear oil, cleaned it up, and installed a short throw shifter when I had the tranny out. All in all it is pretty easy.
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There is a write up in the tech section of the rotary resurrection website that I found quite helpful. I printed it out (4 pages) and used it as a guideline. I changed mine last week, and it went pretty smooth. If you have the time; I would go through the aux ports, injectors, and maybe change your pulsation damper while you have it out.
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Thanks for the help guys. All this info has helped. I dont think it will be too hard, their could be some more descriptive pics on RR but, owell. If anybody has anything else to say, please feel free.
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Oh btw...do you think anything else would be fried besides the motor? Ex...radiator or anything? Im going to check all the lines and what not while its out. Also, the motor im putting in (after i put it in anyway) will have NOT been started for like 6-8 months. Are their any words of precaution? or any ways I can get the engine "lubed" up for a smooth start? I don't want anything to have siezed up over this amount of time, i dont think it would, but you never know.
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Anybody? Im also looking at some how to guides. The RotaryExtreme is a little harsh since i will admit i don't know every part of the engine yet...so its difficult to understand what their talking about sometime if i don't know where its located. The FSM on engine removal is pretty decent, it could use some more detailed pictures for a rookie like me. If anybody has any help/input at all, please let me know. I need to do this right the first time. I'll also want to remove all emissions, AC PS Air Pump, and plug the FPD. I'll have Guitar Junkies pulley set. I could just use all the help i can get. I've been reading so much latley im getting a headache. Isn't their and engine install/removal DVD? Not trying to be lazy, i just want to LEARN! Thanks guys.
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I would say just go for it.

Honestly years ago when I got my T2 it had a locked up/blown motor. I never touched a rotary and I pulled and dropped another motor in with no problem. Now I can do it easily and quickly and I never used a manual or video.

Personally I have pulled just about any engine out there and FC was the easiest to pull and drop back in.

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Well thanks for the confidence. Maybe im just making it sound too confusing at my point? It probaby is pretty simple as usual, i just don't have the engine in front of me to look at, lol.
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lol, No problem.

I am sure there is a video out there if you still need it or someone here has one from a pull they did.

I know one member here had a video of him his in like 45 min. or something like that. It was pretty quick.

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