S4 Apexi Power FC Harness Adapter
03-19-07, 04:33 PM
#101
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Yes, you could upgrade the manifold and TPS, but you would need some custom work to keep the OMP.
It doesn't get tested on the ECU, it eliminates the it. As previously stated we have only tested in an 88 which runs the N333. The wiring pinouts are identical for the N332.
It doesn't get tested on the ECU, it eliminates the it. As previously stated we have only tested in an 88 which runs the N333. The wiring pinouts are identical for the N332.
03-19-07, 04:43 PM
#102
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oh im sorry i miss worded my question, i meant to ask about the difference in harnesses, because the 332 uses the resistor box, and low impendance injectors, and the 333 uses no resistor box, and hi impendance injectors.
03-21-07, 05:43 PM
#104
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OK good news we did some more testing today and the FD igniter is no longer required for the install. The trailing coil igniter does need to be modified, but we have figured out how to simply use 2 FC trailing igniters to fire the trailing coils. We have also configured the adapter so that it primes the pump when the key is turned forward. The need for installing an additional fuel pump relay no longer exists. The S4 adapter kits are now available on our website. The installation "how to" will be up tomorrow.
03-21-07, 11:17 PM
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yeah, i dont get what we all need for the igniter situation anymore either lol and no wories about the pump for me either the only thing i have tied into the ecu for mine is ignition signal to switch the relay which is spliced in 
should be ordering on pay day friday!!! (30th)
should be ordering on pay day friday!!! (30th)
03-21-07, 11:21 PM
#107
Great work! American ingenuity wins again! I think this is one of the best new products I have seen in a while. I just sold my E-manage set-up and was thinking, now what? And then I find this thread. If you still sell this by the time I have the $$, I will be buying it.
It's just awsome that you figured out how to make it work on a S4 with so few changes. BTW, what is the thread of the FD IAT? My billet TB elbow has no provision for the IAT and I was wondering what it would need to be tapped for.
Vince
It's just awsome that you figured out how to make it work on a S4 with so few changes. BTW, what is the thread of the FD IAT? My billet TB elbow has no provision for the IAT and I was wondering what it would need to be tapped for.
Vince
03-22-07, 05:26 AM
#108
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Originally Posted by arghx
so we need to purchase an FC trailing ignitor instead of an FD ignitor?
The igniter is needed to fire the trailing #2 coil. The PFC has no problems with the leading and T1, the T2 needs a switching source, this is bypassed by installing an additional trailing igniter to fire the T2 coil. The one that is currently in the car is used to fire the T1.
The FD IAT sensor is a M10 x 1.25 thread.
03-22-07, 01:30 PM
#110
Originally Posted by BlueTII
OK good news we did some more testing today and the FD igniter is no longer required for the install. The trailing coil igniter does need to be modified, but we have figured out how to simply use 2 FC trailing igniters to fire the trailing coils. We have also configured the adapter so that it primes the pump when the key is turned forward. The need for installing an additional fuel pump relay no longer exists. The S4 adapter kits are now available on our website. The installation "how to" will be up tomorrow.
03-22-07, 01:45 PM
#111
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Originally Posted by BlueTII
Yes, just an FC trailing coil pack with igniter. They are a dime a dozen, and there is no need for additional connectors. The How-to will be on our site today.
The igniter is needed to fire the trailing #2 coil. The PFC has no problems with the leading and T1, the T2 needs a switching source, this is bypassed by installing an additional trailing igniter to fire the T2 coil. The one that is currently in the car is used to fire the T1.
The FD IAT sensor is a M10 x 1.25 thread.
The igniter is needed to fire the trailing #2 coil. The PFC has no problems with the leading and T1, the T2 needs a switching source, this is bypassed by installing an additional trailing igniter to fire the T2 coil. The one that is currently in the car is used to fire the T1.
The FD IAT sensor is a M10 x 1.25 thread.
Originally Posted by Ricer240sx
whats the thread on the FC iat do u know?? will i have to drill and tap a new hole??
03-22-07, 06:18 PM
#112
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Originally Posted by Ricer240sx
whats the thread on the FC iat do u know?? will i have to drill and tap a new hole??
It is all covered in the how-to here:
http://www.banzai-racing.com/index_S4_pfc_install.htm
http://www.banzai-racing.com/index_S4_pfc_adapter.htm
03-22-07, 06:20 PM
#113
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Originally Posted by ilike2eatricers
In your previous thread I asked what was different between the AP version and a standard FD PFC that would require the ignitor? I have the AP PFC and my stock coil packs work fine. Not dissing just want to know what the difference is if you know.
no you wont. it's the same
no you wont. it's the same
http://www.banzai-racing.com/index_c...dification.htm
03-24-07, 05:39 AM
#114
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Originally Posted by JDriftM
Sounds right up my alley then....with the exception of the TPS. Now, if I were to upgrade my intake manifold to the S5 FC or the FD manifold, would I be able to run the TPS from those, as long as I get it wired correctly?
J
J
03-27-07, 07:18 AM
#115
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OK we tested this out on a car with a hot start issue, the car had perfect compression, so it was a good candidate. As soon as the PFC was installed we started the car and shut it down cold, it started right back up, then proceeded to start and shut down the car at different temps 20-30 times without once having to use the fuel cut switch. We then reinstalled the stock ECU and components and the first time we tried to start it the cut switch was needed. So to answer the previously asked question, it appears that on heathy engine vehicles the the PFC does cure the hot start issue.
03-27-07, 07:23 AM
#116
Originally Posted by BlueTII
OK we tested this out on a car with a hot start issue, the car had perfect compression, so it was a good candidate. As soon as the PFC was installed we started the car and shut it down cold, it started right back up, then proceeded to start and shut down the car at different temps 20-30 times without once having to use the fuel cut switch. We then reinstalled the stock ECU and components and the first time we tried to start it the cut switch was needed. So to answer the previously asked question, it appears that on heathy engine vehicles the the PFC does cure the hot start issue.
Also, answer my previous post's question.
03-27-07, 07:45 AM
#117
Banzai Racing
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It is not always a low compression issue, there is really no cure for that but a rebuild. As with the test car above, eliminating all the old sensors and installing the PFC solved the problem.
If you are looking for links they are they are in posts #112 and #113 above ^^^^^ or you can click the link in my sig....
If you are looking for links they are they are in posts #112 and #113 above ^^^^^ or you can click the link in my sig....
03-27-07, 07:54 AM
#118
Originally Posted by BlueTII
It is not always a low compression issue, there is really no cure for that but a rebuild. As with the test car above, eliminating all the old sensors and installing the PFC solved the problem.
If you are looking for links they are they are in posts #112 and #113 above ^^^^^ or you can click the link in my sig....
If you are looking for links they are they are in posts #112 and #113 above ^^^^^ or you can click the link in my sig....
03-27-07, 09:15 AM
#119
Banzai Racing
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I don't know what "webpage" you are talking about. The "products" tab on our website has it listed as well as it being on the home page. There are multiple links on this thread, where else would you like to see links?
03-27-07, 09:20 AM
#120
www.banzai-racing.com has 2 things listed in the Products page under Harnesses. One is a link to the S5 one. The other is a link to the S5 and S6 ones.
I'm just trying to help out...
I'm just trying to help out...
03-27-07, 09:36 AM
#121
Banzai Racing
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unless you are using a cached version of our website it is pretty straight forward, click "products", then "harnesses", then you will see
*S5/FD APEXi Power FC Harness Adapter ('89 - '91)
*S4/FD APEXi Power FC Harness Adapter ('86 - '88) <-----------this is the link for this product
*FC & FD Patch Harnesses ('89 - '95)
*FD3s GM 3-Bar Map Sensor & Harness Adapter Kit ('93 - '95)
Unless you are clicking patch harness which is the incorrect product all together
*S5/FD APEXi Power FC Harness Adapter ('89 - '91)
*S4/FD APEXi Power FC Harness Adapter ('86 - '88) <-----------this is the link for this product
*FC & FD Patch Harnesses ('89 - '95)
*FD3s GM 3-Bar Map Sensor & Harness Adapter Kit ('93 - '95)
Unless you are clicking patch harness which is the incorrect product all together
03-27-07, 09:55 AM
#122
Ah, the little icon. I thought those were just bullets. 
I was looking at the two pictures to the left of where it says Harnesses. You may want to think of making the text a link also. I figured if the text wasn't the link then the pictures next to the text, which are links, would be where to click. Kind of confusing...
I was looking at the two pictures to the left of where it says Harnesses. You may want to think of making the text a link also. I figured if the text wasn't the link then the pictures next to the text, which are links, would be where to click. Kind of confusing...
03-27-07, 12:57 PM
#123
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Originally Posted by My5ABaby
Ah, the little icon. I thought those were just bullets.
I was looking at the two pictures to the left of where it says Harnesses. You may want to think of making the text a link also. I figured if the text wasn't the link then the pictures next to the text, which are links, would be where to click. Kind of confusing...
I was looking at the two pictures to the left of where it says Harnesses. You may want to think of making the text a link also. I figured if the text wasn't the link then the pictures next to the text, which are links, would be where to click. Kind of confusing...
