Running Carb Cleaner DIRECTLY into engine, like H2o trick - MAN!! Read result!!!!!
03-29-02, 01:19 AM
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Originally posted by Taranis
I would also like to know what you guys recommend for MMO. i.e. how much in oil/how much per tankfull how often?
I'm at 194,00 on the OD and reckon I'm due for a carbon cleaning.
Anyone?
- JB
I would also like to know what you guys recommend for MMO. i.e. how much in oil/how much per tankfull how often?
I'm at 194,00 on the OD and reckon I'm due for a carbon cleaning.
Anyone?
- JB
03-29-02, 01:36 AM
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Originally posted by execelon1
normally i don't post a response to if's and maybe's but i sure would like to try some of the weasel ****. where can i find a weasel that will give me enough to use ?last time i saw one they looked pretty small to me . i wonder how many you would have to have to get 12 oz of urine from them and could i just get him to pee straight into the the vacum line, and if he does this is it at all possible that he might just get his ***** stuck or even worse sucked into the engine ? now i can see this as being a very serious problem for both of us; the doner loosing his ****** and me being charged with animal cruelty , not to mention that now i have a non piston engine with a rod in it.
normally i don't post a response to if's and maybe's but i sure would like to try some of the weasel ****. where can i find a weasel that will give me enough to use ?last time i saw one they looked pretty small to me . i wonder how many you would have to have to get 12 oz of urine from them and could i just get him to pee straight into the the vacum line, and if he does this is it at all possible that he might just get his ***** stuck or even worse sucked into the engine ? now i can see this as being a very serious problem for both of us; the doner loosing his ****** and me being charged with animal cruelty , not to mention that now i have a non piston engine with a rod in it.
Carb cleaner is some awesome stuff...it'll clean damn near anything. Just used it to clean a bathtub filled with the gunky innards of my Probe's intake manifold and did the toilet while I was at it. Good stuff!
I've found this thread to be extremely interesting and informative actually... definitely put this one in the archives.
03-30-02, 09:50 PM
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**** my pants tonight at work.
I did the CC thing again b4 going in to work (figured it woudn't hurt and I might as well use up some more of the can.) That was just after 3pm.
Around 6pm I notice that I can smell burning coolant when I get out of the car. "No way that can be me..."
A couple minutes past seven and I'm making a short run when the add coolant light comes on and the temp starts to climb. ****** Did a u-turn and went right back to the restaurant - **** your $20 pizza, I gotta look after my car!
And now I'm thinking, 'What if the CC trick bitched something in the engine?" I was going to be more than a little pissed if I'd pooched my 90,000km rebuild with a $4 can of carb crap.
The coolant resevoir was dry. Thank god. So it wasn't a seal failure inside the engine. Sphincter relaxed, I started hunting for the leak. Noticed that the left side of the engine and all the wiring bundles looked like they had been blasted with coolant. Turned out there was a crack/slit in the coolant hose that connects to the engine below the oil filter, right under the edge of the clamp. The crack was maybe 4 or 5mm long, parallel to the clamp's edge. But it was enough for the coolant to spew out whenever I used the gas...
I cut off the damaged end of the hose, reconnected it and voila! Back in business. Just in time for the end of my shift.
I'll be replacing the entire length of hose this week (if it failed there, it'll fail elsewhere) and change out the coolant as well. Good thing I have half a bottle of Water Wetter lying around. 
For a while there I was all set to come charging home and slap up a post here screaming, 'DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!'
Thought ya might get a kick out of the story. And, yeah, I'm still a fan of the CC trick. Just keep an eye on your hoses after you do it.
ttyl,
Amur_
I did the CC thing again b4 going in to work (figured it woudn't hurt and I might as well use up some more of the can.) That was just after 3pm.
Around 6pm I notice that I can smell burning coolant when I get out of the car. "No way that can be me..."
A couple minutes past seven and I'm making a short run when the add coolant light comes on and the temp starts to climb. ****** Did a u-turn and went right back to the restaurant - **** your $20 pizza, I gotta look after my car!
And now I'm thinking, 'What if the CC trick bitched something in the engine?" I was going to be more than a little pissed if I'd pooched my 90,000km rebuild with a $4 can of carb crap.
The coolant resevoir was dry. Thank god. So it wasn't a seal failure inside the engine. Sphincter relaxed, I started hunting for the leak. Noticed that the left side of the engine and all the wiring bundles looked like they had been blasted with coolant. Turned out there was a crack/slit in the coolant hose that connects to the engine below the oil filter, right under the edge of the clamp. The crack was maybe 4 or 5mm long, parallel to the clamp's edge. But it was enough for the coolant to spew out whenever I used the gas...
I cut off the damaged end of the hose, reconnected it and voila! Back in business. Just in time for the end of my shift.
I'll be replacing the entire length of hose this week (if it failed there, it'll fail elsewhere) and change out the coolant as well. Good thing I have half a bottle of Water Wetter lying around. For a while there I was all set to come charging home and slap up a post here screaming, 'DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!'
Thought ya might get a kick out of the story. And, yeah, I'm still a fan of the CC trick. Just keep an eye on your hoses after you do it.
ttyl,
Amur_
04-01-02, 11:17 PM
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That's freakin hilarious- the part I can't beleive is the exact same thing happened to me, about 1-2 days after I ran CC!!! Same hose- same spot... thought I blew a water seal!! What a co-inkidink!
I need to replace some hoses anyways...
I need to replace some hoses anyways...
04-02-02, 11:09 AM
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How similar? Did you have some warning that something was wrong - the burning coolant smell - and also dismissed it? Or were you on a road trip or whatever and so kinda got buffaloed with having to do a quickly search and repair by the side of the road?
I was extra lucky that night because originally I was supposed to go to Brampton to meet friends and see ET (first time in a theater since '82,) an hour away on the 401. I would have been stewed.
But the plans fell through and I wound up working instead. Here I was wondering why I was having trouble walking and it turned out to be a horseshoe up my *** (better a horseshoe than a hamster - "Mr. Gere, you can't leave that here.")
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I was extra lucky that night because originally I was supposed to go to Brampton to meet friends and see ET (first time in a theater since '82,) an hour away on the 401. I would have been stewed.
But the plans fell through and I wound up working instead. Here I was wondering why I was having trouble walking and it turned out to be a horseshoe up my *** (better a horseshoe than a hamster - "Mr. Gere, you can't leave that here.") ttyl,
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04-02-02, 03:50 PM
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Coolant light went on in my driveway after I started it. no biggie, just filled it up with hose water, I was on my way to Canadian Tire anyways (shoot me now).... but its when It came on again 30 seconds later that I knew I had a problem... I was VERY worried, then I notced all the fluid dripping under my engine.. a big relief that it was dripping there, and not out the tailpipe!!
04-02-02, 05:34 PM
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I was on my way to Canadian Tire anyways (shoot me now)
BLAM!Unless you're picking up Mothers stuff or are gonna rob the place, no 7 owner should be setting foot in the place to shop for their car.
That having been said, drop by Partsource sometime. It's owned by CTC, carries the same crap, and is often less expensive (not by much.) And if you get to know the guys there they'll let ya use the tool-lending program without charging you the deposit - something I was grateful for the last time I did the brakes. ttyl,
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04-02-02, 07:07 PM
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Oh kay so basically i let my engine suck up the CC... and than follow the CC with a little H2O to get out the CC... after that reset my ECU.. and i'm done?
04-02-02, 10:35 PM
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1) Pull the uppermost vacuum line on the front of the plenum (the section that the air first enters.) You want the one at the top of the vertical row of three.
2) Insert the nozzle of the CC into the line.
3) Use the throttle linkage to get the engine revving up around 3k-4k.
4) Spray the CC either for about 10 seconds or until it starts 'overflowing' and spraying back out at you (you don't want this crap landing on your fenders or windshield - if it does, stop and wipe it up immediately.)
5) The engine will bog down when you spray. Use the linkage to keep the revs up (revving nice and strong but don't max her out.)
6) After spraying for 10 secs, stop for 10 or 15 secs. Keep the revs up a little above idle as the engine returns to normal.
7) Repeat.
8) It would probably be a good idea to let the engine sit and idle for at least a few minutes after you've stopped spraying.
I'm not clear on whether using this vac line reaches one or both rotors. Anyone?
I used about a 1/3 of the can the first time I did it. I noticed an immediate improvement. I'm planning on doing it each time I change the oil (about every 3 months.) Maybe more frequently if I think the accel is starting to soften.
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2) Insert the nozzle of the CC into the line.
3) Use the throttle linkage to get the engine revving up around 3k-4k.
4) Spray the CC either for about 10 seconds or until it starts 'overflowing' and spraying back out at you (you don't want this crap landing on your fenders or windshield - if it does, stop and wipe it up immediately.)
5) The engine will bog down when you spray. Use the linkage to keep the revs up (revving nice and strong but don't max her out.)
6) After spraying for 10 secs, stop for 10 or 15 secs. Keep the revs up a little above idle as the engine returns to normal.
7) Repeat.
8) It would probably be a good idea to let the engine sit and idle for at least a few minutes after you've stopped spraying.
I'm not clear on whether using this vac line reaches one or both rotors. Anyone?
I used about a 1/3 of the can the first time I did it. I noticed an immediate improvement. I'm planning on doing it each time I change the oil (about every 3 months.) Maybe more frequently if I think the accel is starting to soften.
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04-19-02, 09:30 AM
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Some more follow up on this:
I suppose that it ties in with the increase in hp, but since doing this CC trick, when my 7 is on the 401 she isn't having to work as hard as she used to while cruising.
What I mean is that before the CC trick, cruising at about 120 km/h on a level roadway saw the tach sitting at a little over 3k. Now it's around 2800.
It used to be that on long trips, if I wanted to save on gas, I'd have to keep the car to 110 km/h (to keep the tach under 3k - over 3k was like opening a hole in the tank.) That self-imposed ceiling has risen substantially.
My 7 isn't in a science experiment - I can't say if this is specifically due to the CC trick. But I can assert that she didn't start behaving this way until after I did the CC trick. She hasn't had an oil change in about 2 months, nor plugs nor anything else. If anything, performance ought to be down a snig since I haven't cleaned the K&N since last summer.
Anyone else have similar results?
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I suppose that it ties in with the increase in hp, but since doing this CC trick, when my 7 is on the 401 she isn't having to work as hard as she used to while cruising.
What I mean is that before the CC trick, cruising at about 120 km/h on a level roadway saw the tach sitting at a little over 3k. Now it's around 2800.
It used to be that on long trips, if I wanted to save on gas, I'd have to keep the car to 110 km/h (to keep the tach under 3k - over 3k was like opening a hole in the tank.) That self-imposed ceiling has risen substantially.
My 7 isn't in a science experiment - I can't say if this is specifically due to the CC trick. But I can assert that she didn't start behaving this way until after I did the CC trick. She hasn't had an oil change in about 2 months, nor plugs nor anything else. If anything, performance ought to be down a snig since I haven't cleaned the K&N since last summer.
Anyone else have similar results?
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04-19-02, 10:00 AM
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one other idea....
we had a local gas staion company(supplier)
go out of business I stopped by there
and I bought a case of techron addative
not the stuff you buy in stores this was the concentrated stuff you dump into tanks in ground
1 bottle per 1,000 gals of gas .
damn it works good LOL
had an old valve laying around put some in a cup
and damn it looked new a day or so later
removed all carbon etc...
I am gonna run some trough my 7....
a little on the strong side....
and see what happens....
we had a local gas staion company(supplier)
go out of business I stopped by there
and I bought a case of techron addative
not the stuff you buy in stores this was the concentrated stuff you dump into tanks in ground
1 bottle per 1,000 gals of gas .
damn it works good LOL
had an old valve laying around put some in a cup
and damn it looked new a day or so later
removed all carbon etc...
I am gonna run some trough my 7....
a little on the strong side....
and see what happens....
04-19-02, 10:03 AM
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Some more follow up on this:
What I mean is that before the CC trick, cruising at about 120 km/h on a level roadway saw the tach sitting at a little over 3k. Now it's around 2800.
Some more follow up on this:
What I mean is that before the CC trick, cruising at about 120 km/h on a level roadway saw the tach sitting at a little over 3k. Now it's around 2800.
Are you sure you are seeing lower RPM?
04-19-02, 10:28 AM
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CVT? Constant Velocity... ?
Absolutely. About 300 - 400 revs lower. The first time I noticed it (the first time I had the car on the 401 after the CC trick) I was concerned that something was wrong with either the engine or drivetrain. If there is something wrong, I haven't discovered it yet.
Are you sure you are seeing lower RPM?
04-19-02, 12:12 PM
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CVT is Continuous Variable Transmission. Honda use to have this in the civic, but don't now.
Because speed and engine rpm is directly proportional. Speed = RPM*(gear ratio/final drive)*tire circumference.
Therefore, the RPM@speed should be the same unless you change to gear ratio. I am curious as to why you say there is a rpm drop......
Because speed and engine rpm is directly proportional. Speed = RPM*(gear ratio/final drive)*tire circumference.
Therefore, the RPM@speed should be the same unless you change to gear ratio. I am curious as to why you say there is a rpm drop......
04-19-02, 01:21 PM
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I can't explain it. I can only report it. Perhaps my gauges are starting to read incorrectly, or maybe correctly for the 1st time. Bottom line - the engine isn't working as hard to maintain the same speeds on the same roads under the same conditions. The CC is the only remarkable treatment or 'mod' that correlates...
Bottom line - the engine isn't working as hard to maintain the same speeds on the same roads under the same conditions. The CC is the only remarkable treatment or 'mod' that correlates...
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Everyone keeps saying to pull the top vacuum hose off the dynamic chamber... I'm not thinking that's the best idea here... At least on the 86-88's the top vacuum hose (the fat one) is what activates the oil injectors.. Everyone was having such a big problem with the carb cleaner stripping the oil off the housings, and here we are DISABLING the oil injectors by pulling that hose!
(wait...lemme make sure... it's VACUUM that activates them, not lack of vacuum, right? If pulling it off makes them on all the time, then i'll shut up. )
The middle nipple seems to just go down to the lower manifold... to diffuse the gas, i believe.. You should be able to pull that one off with no ill consequences, and squirt into that hole in the dynamic chamber..
And I'd still say to run premix or MMO in the gas, just to be safe..
About the speed/rpm difference... change in tire pressure?
-Tesla
(wait...lemme make sure... it's VACUUM that activates them, not lack of vacuum, right? If pulling it off makes them on all the time, then i'll shut up.
)The middle nipple seems to just go down to the lower manifold... to diffuse the gas, i believe.. You should be able to pull that one off with no ill consequences, and squirt into that hole in the dynamic chamber..
And I'd still say to run premix or MMO in the gas, just to be safe..
About the speed/rpm difference... change in tire pressure?
-Tesla
04-19-02, 11:59 PM
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Hell, he probably just found 5th gear for the 1st time!
About the speed/rpm difference... change in tire pressure?
Is this the hose where the CC should be spray??
Come 90 degrees clockwise to the front of the plenum. There should be 3 rubber vacuum hoses, lined up vertically. The top one is the one I used. This is assuming that you have an NA.
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04-20-02, 09:25 AM
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There is no way that with a manual tranny your gear ratio can spontaneously change!!!
Unless you clutch was slipping constantly like a tourque convertor!!
Something is different with either your speedo- check the driven gear on the tranny- maybe it's worn and slipping/catching, who knows....
Odd- oh well. Glad the cleaner worked for you anyways!
Unless you clutch was slipping constantly like a tourque convertor!!
Something is different with either your speedo- check the driven gear on the tranny- maybe it's worn and slipping/catching, who knows....
Odd- oh well. Glad the cleaner worked for you anyways!
04-20-02, 02:09 PM
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Glad the cleaner worked for you anyways!
That was one quick, easy and cheap treatment with instant results. One other thing I've noticed that may or may not be related.
My engine didn't used to kick up to 3k rpm at start-up. It would just sit at 1k. If I tapped the gas, then it would jump up.
Now it jumps to 3k every time.
Whatever's going on under my hood, my 7 is definitely feeling more and more like herself. Mmm... pretty car...
04-20-02, 04:33 PM
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Just to let you know , I tried the CC trick after reading this, and I think it did help a bit, but one day after I did it, One of my coolant lines cracked also. The add coolant buzzer came on, and I pulled over and looked for a leak, and found a cracked line. Do you think that theres anything to this since it happened to three of us right after the CC trick?? Just a theory.
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Ok, I am gonna try the carb cleaner just too see if its all that its suposed to be, I usually just use atf and it works killer, BUT i am open to new things that are helpful to my 7. SO in saying that, which one lubes the best?