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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 05:38 PM
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Which rotors to use on Build?

Im still tring to complete my rebuild. turns out when my rear plate cracked it also overheated the rotor. now my apex seals don't fit in the slots freely. therefore what would be the best rotors to put back in the engine. heres the build.
-Full Bridgeport
-planning on running big turbo (hx50, gt40-42, hx52)
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-s5 housing
-s5 rear plate
-atkins rebuild kit (RA seals)
so what would be the best used rotors to go with. S4, S5, FD, NAs or T2
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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 10:45 PM
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i am assuming since you made no mention of the front half of the engine, then it was salvaged. if that's the case, then why wouldn't you just get one to match whatever rotor you have?
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 08:25 AM
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Idk exactly what the front rotor is . The guy I bought the car from built it. Bc and so far hes been sketchy. So I have been restoring car. If theres a way to tell what rotors I have . That would be awesome.. he said supposely tgey are tII s5 rotors but idk.
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 09:39 AM
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Personally I'd use s4.

S4 rotor dish is cast and thus has a rough surface,
S5 rotor dish is machined and is smooth with very small machine lines running parallely to the side-seal edge
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 09:41 AM
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These are the s4 rotors that were used in my build.

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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 10:14 AM
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Cool mine are not machined.. they are rough.. so that makes sense consodering my car is a s4. Why would you go with s4 t2 rotors. Anything special. Im tring to make over 500hp.
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 10:20 AM
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They're stronger, and since they're heavier its better for your bearings, and being lower compression its easier to run high amounts of boost.

S4 rotors are more durable due to the additional material that wasn't shaved off. S5 rotors are better for engine response.

Which means less chance for the rotor to get dented during detonation, on the other hand you need to run more boost to get power since they're lower compression and the more boost you run the higher the chances are for detonation.
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 10:26 AM
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From: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
Originally Posted by gjacks1857
Cool mine are not machined.. they are rough.. so that makes sense consodering my car is a s4. Why would you go with s4 t2 rotors. Anything special. Im tring to make over 500hp.
lower compression, is better with a turbo
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 10:36 AM
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Lately ive been seeing fds running na s5 rotors.. supposed to make better power down low but not good for higher roms.
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by wthdidusay82
They're stronger, and since they're heavier its better for your bearings...
Really?
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 02:50 PM
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More weight smooths out the rotation.
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 02:56 PM
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I hear s4 na rotors (9.4:1) and E85 are the way to go. You can make great power at moderate boost levels. I run s4 na rotors in my turbo motor at 8-9 psi and i love it. I dont use E85 but plan to in the future for more reliability and power.
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 03:28 PM
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Does anyone know how to tell the difference in a na and turbo s4 rotor?
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 03:53 PM
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Does anyone know how to tell the difference in a na and turbo s4 rotor?
Turbo rotors will have a gash engraved into one of the combustion areas. It looks like a "I". You will have to clean it up alittle too see it.
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Does anyone know how to tell the difference in a na and turbo s4 rotor?
turbo rotor has a deeper dish, which is easy if you have em side by side but hard if you don't. i think there is a T or an N, in the oil drain sort of by the bearing
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Originally Posted by wthdidusay82
More weight smooths out the rotation.
when there is an offset, like on a crank shaft, less weight is better.
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 06:41 PM
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It appears nobody has mentioned the weight codes yet. The rotors will have a, b, c, d, of e stamped on the side of them. A is the heaviest, e is the lightest. It is best to have matching weights, but you can be one off and be ok.

Make sure to take this into account when buying your replacement rotor.
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s

when there is an offset, like on a crank shaft, less weight is better.
Better for the bearings or in general?

As for the weight codes I always thought a was lightest and e heaviest, guess I had that backwards.
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 08:55 PM
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I used an entire matched Fd rotating assembly , cant say i have heard that much praise for s4 rotors before like i have in this thread
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 08:57 PM
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Well the easiest cheaoest way was to just replace the one rotor vs a entire rotating assembly. So I just found one. Should be here next week..
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by gjacks1857
Well the easiest cheaoest way was to just replace the one rotor vs a entire rotating assembly. So I just found one. Should be here next week..
Does the weight match your other one?
Factor in a "big" turbo and its the details that count to make reliable power
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob XX 7

Does the weight match your other one?
Factor in a "big" turbo and its the details that count to make reliable power
It doesn't have to be the same weight it can be one letter off up or down but I wouldn't go any more than that.

Example - rotor 1 letter D. Rotor 2 can use C,D, or E

The weight difference between each letter is roughly half a pound per letter up is less , per letter down is more.
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 09:59 PM
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I got the same weight rotor.. and yes I want to run crazy boost.. so I guess the lower compression and a full bridgy + big turbo.. should make nice numbers
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Originally Posted by wthdidusay82
It doesn't have to be the same weight it can be one letter off up or down but I wouldn't go any more than that.

Example - rotor 1 letter D. Rotor 2 can use C,D, or E

The weight difference between each letter is roughly half a pound per letter up is less , per letter down is more.
Half a pound?
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Old Apr 22, 2013 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob XX 7

Half a pound?
Each letter higher is half a pound less, each letter lower is half a pound heavier.

Example - the difference between rotor letter a and c is one pound , the letter a being heavier.

The difference between a and e is roughly 2 pounds a being heavier, e being lighter
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