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Old 02-03-07, 11:47 AM
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Rotor ID questions, and yes folks, I have searched and searched

Ok, So I have a set of rotors just bought from Sec Gen Rx-7 and he said he got them from rotoryressurections, that are suppose to be S5 N/A rotors, I have reason to think sour grapes may have cuased them to send me the incorrect parts. They are both c weight codes, and have machined cumbustion areas. My concern is that the areas that would be facing the rotor housing are different. One is smooth and the other has the texture of the milled cumbustion area. I haven't seen anyhitng but the smooth variety in an S5, anyone know what I have? I put them both on a crappy bathroom scale and that seid they were both 10lbs....it is a real crappy scale though. Don't know how accurate. Thanks everyone.

If these are by chance correct, then I retract my sour grapes comment.


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Machined combustion surfaces (bathtub) is S5. Cast combustion surface is S4.
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Old 02-03-07, 12:01 PM
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yes i know, i tried to say they both are machined combustion areas, its the area around that that is different, one is smooth while the other have a surface that of the milled combustion areas. Sorry I was no clear on that one.
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Sounds odd, all I`ve seen were smooth with machined bathtubs. Get a digital camara and post some pic, it would help us out.
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ok, so here are some pics of what i am working with. The one on the left is the one in question next to the other one that I am used to seeing. You have to use your imagination a bit, i hit them with some wet dry sand paper to try and bring up the marks. The veritcal lines are what I am refering to, somewhat visible in the left rotor. Thanks everyone.....i hope for good news or I am in a world of hurt.
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Yes, I hand picked those just for you. What, you think that because I regard you as a tool in real life, that I would do bad business with my friend and stick him or you with some fucked up engine parts?

The machining on the face (or not) is irrelevant. I am not sure why mazda made some with grooved faces and some without (not speaking of the compression bathtub but the actual face). IT is some difference in production. I have taken apart hundreds of cores, most OEM, some of which had mixed one rotor with a smooth face and one rotor with a grooved face. It makes no difference whatsoever, as long as both are the same model rotor and within acceptable weight code range (1 letter of each other).

What you have can be used in the same engine. OF course, I'm sure you'll second guess my statement with some other builders and waste their time as well.

Note that I am still being the bigger man, still helping you while you after you've repeatedly been a dick towards myself and Mark after you bought a core motor and it wasn't fully rebuildable (what blown engine is?).

And oh yeah, LOL @ the whole lawyer/slander BS line you fed him. Not everybody is as gullible.
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Yes, I hand picked those just for you. What, you think that because I regard you as a tool in real life, that I would do bad business with my friend and stick him or you with some fucked up engine parts?

The machining on the face (or not) is irrelevant. I am not sure why mazda made some with grooved faces and some without (not speaking of the compression bathtub but the actual face). IT is some difference in production. I have taken apart hundreds of cores, most OEM, some of which had mixed one rotor with a smooth face and one rotor with a grooved face. It makes no difference whatsoever, as long as both are the same model rotor and within acceptable weight code range (1 letter of each other).

What you have can be used in the same engine. OF course, I'm sure you'll second guess my statement with some other builders and waste their time as well.

Note that I am still being the bigger man, still helping you while you after you've repeatedly been a dick towards myself and Mark after you bought a core motor and it wasn't fully rebuildable (what blown engine is?).

And oh yeah, LOL @ the whole lawyer/slander BS line you fed him. Not everybody is as gullible.

Kevin is a good guy, he built my motor and I am impressed with how its doing so far.

Although one thing I nor kevin probably noticed , was that a bolt was broken in the block that goes to the oil pan (if i had known i would of told him to fix it for me during rebuild).

Aside from that mistake that anyone could make , my motor is holding up good after 2000 miles someday I hope to take it to the dyno and see what kind of power his porting will make under my setup tuned.
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did you ever think that your buddy mark may not have been totally honost with you about the situation between him an myself? Also, it has nothign to do with gullibility, just cautionary warning that if someone wanted to make things difficult they could. All I meant was that he should inspect what he sells prior to shipment. The way he conducted buisness, in referance to the parts not the initial service, was grossly neglagant. I was extreamly specific to avaoid this situation but he apparently did not choose to listen. Again, rebuildable meant rebuildable, I am not at fault for his misunderstanding as i stated that numerous times. REBUILDABLE, do I need to get a dictionary for you. I did not buy a core, or a blown engine, that is what I received. Did you ever think that if that was what I asked then why would he go through such effort to try and make amends of the situation.

The bigger man??? I see name calling is what bigger men do then huh? You have never been the bigger man, only acted like a spoiled 16 year old who has been kicked out of the sandbox one to many times. I have also never seen someone who makes so many absurd assumptions in my life, nor someone who insists on acting like they are the gift to the world on the subject of everything.
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I am glad to hear you pleased, I have never had him do any work, and don't plan to, so I can not comment on his abilities. I only know that his unprofessional, immature personality is that of someone that I do not do business with. He seems to listen to one side of a story, which is obviously manipulated, and make gross assumptions based of that only to reply on a subject he knows little to nothing about with children’s emoticons and language. It seems all the knowledge he has about rotary theory has gone to his head and lead him to think he is an expert in every field and be able to automatically know all details of a situation based solely on partial knowledge. In my world of business, we call these people salesman and quickly are ousted from the company as they only make matters worse. Then once they are confronted resort to name calling and throwing a tantrum, in his case probably while holding his breath till he turns blue and kicking his feet. I just do not approve of the way he conducts himself, maybe I am just accustom to highly educated people who know how to behave in public.
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damn..bean13 why would he say you've been a dick to him? unless their's alot more to this than being written. who knows? at least you know you can use both the rotors!
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True, I am glad of that. And yes there is much more to the story, much much more. He has been a thorn in my side ever since I didn't much appreciate how he talks to people, and then to me. Seems his big kick in life is following me from thread to thread only to disagree with me and bring up a bad business deal that did not even involve him, no matter how foolish he sounds. Apparently he thinks being a dick is just standing up to him, or offering a differing opinion. I am not one to air my dirty laundry in public as him and his boyfriends seem to. Nice looking car in your avatar too....what’s with the white stuff....?
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