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Reverse hoods.. why'd they change it?
05-13-03, 10:30 AM
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Reverse hoods.. why'd they change it?
Guys i was just thinking. the design of the 1st generation hood was AWESOME. i mean seriously, who doesnt love the reverse open hoods.... (very exotic) why did mazda change the way the hood opened when they designed the FC? my opinion is that a reverse open hood on an FC would be nice. what would have to be done besides custom hinges?
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05-13-03, 11:08 AM
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I have yet to have any of my 14 cars with normally opening hoods land on me while working on them, and my bimmers "reverse hood" was a pain in the *** when working on the front of the engine. (ie. you had to remove the hood to do the timing belt)
Never had a hood latch failure either, and I have logged several hours (yes I do mean hours!) at over 110mph.
The hood stay is the bar that holds the hood open. I guess first gens have problems with them holding up.
The only advantages to reverse opening are mainly cosmetic, (cowel clearances are greatly reduced) and offer a better access to the firewall and rear sides of the engine.
I wear 44" suits and weigh over 200lbs and have no difficulty getting to the firewall or rear of the engine on my 2nd gen.
Another disadvantage would also be in the cantilever mechanism required to have the reverse opening hood. Additional weight, additional parts, additional structural support forward of the axel, etc... Sounds great for a trailer queen if you ask me.
Never had a hood latch failure either, and I have logged several hours (yes I do mean hours!) at over 110mph.
The hood stay is the bar that holds the hood open. I guess first gens have problems with them holding up.
The only advantages to reverse opening are mainly cosmetic, (cowel clearances are greatly reduced) and offer a better access to the firewall and rear sides of the engine.
I wear 44" suits and weigh over 200lbs and have no difficulty getting to the firewall or rear of the engine on my 2nd gen.
Another disadvantage would also be in the cantilever mechanism required to have the reverse opening hood. Additional weight, additional parts, additional structural support forward of the axel, etc... Sounds great for a trailer queen if you ask me.
05-13-03, 11:56 AM
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The hood stay is the lever lock, that holds the hood up when it is open on a front hinge hood.
On many many front hinge hoods, the stay gets bent from the owner or mechanic not releasing the stay before attemping to lower the hood.
On many many front hinge hoods, the stay gets bent from the owner or mechanic not releasing the stay before attemping to lower the hood.
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05-13-03, 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by Icemark
On many many front hinge hoods, the stay gets bent from the owner or mechanic not releasing the stay before attemping to lower the hood.
On many many front hinge hoods, the stay gets bent from the owner or mechanic not releasing the stay before attemping to lower the hood.
...that's not really a design flaw, though.....
05-13-03, 12:52 PM
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This goes way back - I used to autocross a 1098cc MK-1 bugeye sprite.
It had a light flywheel, a shimmed clutch, HC pistons & a .090 milled head. Compression was around 12/1, so it would wind the tach around & tap the zero pin from the back, - and eat exhaust valves.
I reversed the bonnet (hood) with the hinges down on the bumper mount, so it would swing way over forward.
With everything wide open, I could do a valve job in 50 minutes (every ~7000 miles).
Man, would a rotary have awesome in that car!
I think it weighed ~1600lbs.
I reversed the bonnet (hood) with the hinges down on the bumper mount, so it would swing way over forward.
With everything wide open, I could do a valve job in 50 minutes (every ~7000 miles).
Man, would a rotary have awesome in that car!
I thing it weighed ~1500lbs.
It had a light flywheel, a shimmed clutch, HC pistons & a .090 milled head. Compression was around 12/1, so it would wind the tach around & tap the zero pin from the back, - and eat exhaust valves.
I reversed the bonnet (hood) with the hinges down on the bumper mount, so it would swing way over forward.
With everything wide open, I could do a valve job in 50 minutes (every ~7000 miles).
Man, would a rotary have awesome in that car!
I think it weighed ~1600lbs.
I reversed the bonnet (hood) with the hinges down on the bumper mount, so it would swing way over forward.
With everything wide open, I could do a valve job in 50 minutes (every ~7000 miles).
Man, would a rotary have awesome in that car!
I thing it weighed ~1500lbs.
05-13-03, 01:43 PM
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I dont really understand the hood stay thing either. My buddy's '80 just had a little prop rod to hold open the hood, and that was it. Maybe other cars had a stay instead of a prop rod or something.
05-13-03, 07:50 PM
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I wasn't just refering to the RX-7 with the hood stays.
Most of the modern car's with front hinged hoods have locking hood stays, as well as many of the '70s cars from Japan.
Most of the modern car's with front hinged hoods have locking hood stays, as well as many of the '70s cars from Japan.
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