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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 02:17 AM
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replacing throwout bearing and pilot bearing/seal

I heard the TII TOBis an upgrade for the N/a i have a 90 gtu that i am going to replace the clutch/pp on. I want to do it all right so where is the best place to buy a TII TOB and a pilot bearing and seal. Also i hear that it is really hard to remove the pilot bearing how do you all normally pull it off without buying that 100+ dollar tool from rx7.com??


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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 02:21 AM
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dunno about it working off a T2 for an upgrade but for removing it you should have a parts store nearby (Kragen/Schucks/Checker or Auto Zone) that rents/loans tools to remove it. usually they charge you for the tool then refund your money when you return it.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 04:14 AM
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I think the parts are identical.
The CLUTCH FORK is different.


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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 07:47 AM
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Mazdatrix website:
89-92 Turbo & N/A same for TOB
86-88 Turbo & N/A - Different part numbers for TOB
All years use the same pilot bearing and seal.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 09:10 AM
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im about to install a clutch and PP on my T2 and was wondering if i even needed that tool for the pilot bearing, i guess so..

anyone got any suggestions or pointers for clutch replacement?
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 10:23 AM
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I have the slide hammer for body work/axle removal and purchased the "jaws" at Pep Boy's for @ $30. Yea, you'll need the tool, but even with the tool, you may pull the bearings out and leave the outter shell in the shaft. The jaws will work, but they need to be tightened down quite hard to grasp that thin outer case.
You will need to lower the rear of the engine to do the install. make certain the disc is properly aligned by looking through the disc to ensure the correct alignment with the pilot bearing.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 10:50 AM
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seeeeaaaarrrccchhh!!!

The pilot bearing is a bitch. The loan-a-tool puller won't fit, the jaws are too big. They can be dremeled down to size, though. In all likelyhood, you will pull out the inner race and cuss alot. Keep working at it, and you'll get it all out. If you can find someone local that has the tool and will let you borrow it, do that.

There's also the grease trick, but I wasn't cool enough to get it to work.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 11:32 AM
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TII and NA clutch forks are different?? Im using an NA fork on my TII tranny, my clutch doesnt disengauge until the very end thought, maybe thats why. But for the record, an NA fork will work for a TII tranny. No ill effects and Ive been using it for over a year.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by strikland
seeeeaaaarrrccchhh!!!

The pilot bearing is a bitch. The loan-a-tool puller won't fit, the jaws are too big. They can be dremeled down to size, though. In all likelyhood, you will pull out the inner race and cuss alot. Keep working at it, and you'll get it all out. If you can find someone local that has the tool and will let you borrow it, do that.

There's also the grease trick, but I wasn't cool enough to get it to work.

i did search but i never found a thread that stated how the individuals got the PB out without having to buy a mazda puller.


what is the grease trick?


ps cut the guy some slack
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by chris_stampe
ReTed,
TII and NA clutch forks are different?? Im using an NA fork on my TII tranny, my clutch doesnt disengauge until the very end thought, maybe thats why. But for the record, an NA fork will work for a TII tranny. No ill effects and Ive been using it for over a year.
Identical design but the turbo one is thicker.
If you had them side by side, you'll notice.
Kudos go to hIGGI for figuring this out!


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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 01:02 AM
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the tool will fit, your supplier probably just had some midievel tools for loan. i removed a pilot bearing of similar size and style from a b2000 pickup a few weeks ago, they are a pain unless you crank the jaws down tight or the bearing will come apart into a million pieces leaving you with hours of headache in front of you... just take it slow and easy.


the grease method can also be used with soap chips, you pack the soap chips into the pilot hole and use a drift about the same size as the pilot shaft and hammer it lightly to hydraulic the bearing out of the e-shaft, this works on most cars but its effectiveness varies depending on the fit of the drift and just how tight the bearing is seated.
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