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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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I've been reading on aaron cake's n/a turbo conversion. I have researched a ton about this and desided iI want to go ahead with a n/a turbo. I do have one question, How reliable is it to do this? I would like to keep my car as a daily driver after it is done. Is this realistic?

I have the parts for running a stock t2 turbo, intercooler modded as a fmic, and the 2.5" spaced exhaust manifold.

I would like to run 550cc primary, 720cc secondary injectors, FD fuel pump and S-AFC, aeromotive FPR, I'm not sure about ignition yet. Any imput on that would be great as well.

I currently have a 87 n/a with 3500 miles on a rebuilt streetport, with no emissions, and some mild mods on the side.

I just don't want to spend the time and money on this and it not last.

Thank you for the support.
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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It will last awhile if it's tuned correctly. I would look for something more than an AFC; either RTEK or standalone so that you can adjust timing as well as fuel.
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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im 3/4 the way through my na-t swap and I was wondering kinda the same thing but.. what is the the problem? The higher compression causes it to lean out cause not enough fuel? If you have the turbo ecu tpressure sensor t injectors t fuel pump and t fpr you should be fine right? (I could be wrong im wrong a lot )
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TweakGames
im 3/4 the way through my na-t swap and I was wondering kinda the same thing but.. what is the the problem? The higher compression causes it to lean out cause not enough fuel? If you have the turbo ecu tpressure sensor t injectors t fuel pump and t fpr you should be fine right? (I could be wrong im wrong a lot )
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I would be hesitent to just do a straight swap over like that and think everything would be kosher. You're dealing with a high compression ratio so the fuel curve could still be too lean at high RPM. I think this is the main reason why AaronCake went with a SAFC first and then over to a stand alone(I may be wrong on him going over to a stand alone but I think that's what I read somewhere). It's all in the tuning.
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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If its able to be tuned (stand alone) and is tuned there is no problem.
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 08:40 PM
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I'm going on 1 year of my turboed N/A.
I'm running 5 psi for now. Completely stock internals and a s5 turbo. No real problems. But I do have a T2 ecu, with an rtek chp and a SAFC.
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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crap ok I guess I will have to get an safc and go get it tuned at a dyno. There goes 200$

Is there a way to disable boost easily? Just keep the wastegate open somehow?
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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I had a friend that recommended running the turbo but pulling the cas back a couple degrees. He says that the higher compression should negate the timing. Do you think that would be fine for 5 psi on a t2 ecu? (stock 550 injectors and t2 fuel pump, stock s4 na block)
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 09:05 AM
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5 PSI? It's not even turbocharging the car to run 5 PSI.
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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so do you think adding an rtek 1.7 to a t2 ecu and the rest of my setup above would work, if tuned right?
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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5 PSI? It's not even turbocharging the car to run 5 PSI.
So I shouldn't worry about anything? Just run the turbo on the NA motor with the higher compression with t2 ecu and 550 injectors? Everything should be fine at ~5 psi?
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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I dont have any quotes or anything, but I remember reading a while ago that there was an issue with timing or something when running all 6 ports and the turbo? Is this at all true?
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TweakGames
I dont have any quotes or anything, but I remember reading a while ago that there was an issue with timing or something when running all 6 ports and the turbo? Is this at all true?
That's what I heard, and it came from a guy who likes to have his facts straight, and if he doesn't know it he usually knows he doesn't know it.
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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Who is the guy?
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 11:27 PM
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forum member Syonyk, he and owns an '88 or '87 NA.
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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So I shouldn't worry about anything? Just run the turbo on the NA motor with the higher compression with t2 ecu and 550 injectors? Everything should be fine at ~5 psi?
You shouldn't even bother turbocharging the car if you are going to run 5 PSI.

But if you insist, the stock ECU, an S-AFC and 550s will be fine. Or you can use the TII ECU.
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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^^^ If your using the stock s5 n/a ecu what would you do about timing? Just retard it at the cas? If I use the tii ecu could I just ignore the 2 different pins? Or would that cause a problem?
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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For 5 PSI? Leave the timing stock.
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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awesome I can finally get rid of the huge exhaust leak from between the motor and the turbo. (1 of the exhaust manifold bolts was either severely stripped or the exhaust housing was molding haha)
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