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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 11:24 AM
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rebuilding 86 GXL engine to turbo spec...

I am swaping out my engine for a TII this winter. Once I get the N/A engine out, I plan to tear it down and rebuild it with low compression rotors and strengthend gears. I may port it, haven't decided yet.

Anyway, anyone know if there was any particular reason why mazda did not use the 6 port design that the N/A engine's have on the turbo models? That was pointed out to me a little while ago and I am starting to wonder about that....

Should I just sell this engine and rebuild an acutal 4 port TII engine? I've already got the TII I'm installing, just thinking about what I should do with the N/A here.
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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 01:08 PM
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Be prepared to invest a LOT of time and money if you're planning on getting this engine to run right. Otherwise, get a TII engine and rebuild that. Since you're in for a rebuild either way, the TII engine is a much more trouble free and cheaper route.

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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 01:24 PM
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The reason the 6-port engines were used in the N/A, is basically so that you could have smaller runners with less airflow during low RPM operation, for increased torque. With a turbo, you do not have this problem. Im not sure if the actuating system would work properly under compression anyway. My recommendation would be to sell the 6-port engine, and just use a turbo2 engine.
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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 01:25 PM
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I was reading a thread and I guess the turbo has a harder time keeping up boost when the ports open. Something like boost leaks down.
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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 03:19 PM
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So you want to use 6 port housings to basically "make" a TII engine? Don't do it. 6 port irons do not flow as well as 4 port, and are much more limited in terms of porting. If you are going to go through all the trouble to tear down the engine, might as well make it 4 port...
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 10:52 AM
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Hey, I appreciate all the advise. I kinda expected more of a negative lean towards this idea, but I was not sure, hence why I asked!

Looks like I'll just keep this engine around for either an N/A car (maybe and FB ) or a buddy of mine's been looking for one for his MGA project.

I'd still like to hear from anyone who may have actually done this, however.
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 12:07 PM
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You just heard firsthand advice from the Turbo NA guru. Don't do it.

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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by nization
I'd still like to hear from anyone who may have actually done this, however.
Aaron (who answered above) has already done it. It is something that I wouldn't even want to attempt.
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