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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 11:32 PM
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Rebuild is over heating

Just got my motor started today. It was a bitch to start up...needed starter fluid and a fuel pump switch to get it rolling...idled bounced around 1200-1500. The temp went up too high so I shut it off.

New thermostat, coolant, hoses...

reused water pump...didnt show any sign of malfunction..(looking at the manual)

I Noticed that there was no coolant going into the motor cuz i pulled the engine drain plug and no coolant at all!..

Im thinkin the thermostat is not opening simply because the engine has no intial coolant to heat up the thermostat, therefore not operning and overheating the engine.

theory right or wrong?

anyone got any other ideas?

Jack
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 11:36 PM
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yeah, id guess your t stat is stuck. Try starting it up without the t stat in.
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 11:36 PM
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I Noticed that there was no coolant going into the motor cuz i pulled the engine drain plug and no coolant at all!..
Something is not right...the engine should fill up at least 3/4 full before the fill cap overflows. IT is normal to have a little air in the cooling system/engine, but not normal for nothing to come out of the block at all.

Im thinkin the thermostat is not opening simply because the engine has no intial coolant to heat up the thermostat, therefore not operning and overheating the engine.
Well, if it were true that there were no water there, this could be right. That makes no sense at all though. Go back and check again, to see that you didnt just get an air bubble when filling the coolant up too quick, that caused an overflow and made you think it was full when it was nowhere near it.
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 11:46 PM
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Yeah kind of strange for not having any coolant in the block.

I've looked from time to time to add more fluid but the cap is always full..ill check again tomorrow.

shall I just take out the thermostat and filler up then replace?

Thanks guys
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 12:14 AM
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shall I just take out the thermostat and filler up then replace
Thats something you could do, but it shouldnt be necessary. BUt when in doubt, its not a bad idea to take it out until everything is under control.

Have you taken the bleeder valve out of the radiator where the upper hose meets it? IF not, you cant fill it up much at all without air pockets causing it to act full when it isnt.
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 12:36 AM
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Just went out...

Im a total moron... forgot the bleeder screw... took it out and filled her up..

Thanks again hypntyz7
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 01:50 AM
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another thing

My oil pressure gauge isnt moving..its stuck at zero now. Before trying to the start the motor the meter went sky rocket when the key is in. Now its not moving... tested the yel/red stripe wire for power and it reads 11.95 volts and grounded the oil pressure unit (mushrrom thing), its suppose to make the oil press. meter go up but doesnt. Can it be the gauge cluster?
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by Dvst8
another thing

My oil pressure gauge isnt moving..its stuck at zero now. Before trying to the start the motor the meter went sky rocket when the key is in. Now its not moving... tested the yel/red stripe wire for power and it reads 11.95 volts and grounded the oil pressure unit (mushrrom thing), its suppose to make the oil press. meter go up but doesnt. Can it be the gauge cluster?
Easy, It happen to me too...

1-Remove the gauge cluster
2-Remove the Oil PS gauge from the cluster

On the back of the gauge, there is a pin that is connected to the needle. If you move this pin (up and don) you will see the needle moving up and down; same thing if you move the needle, you will see the pin moving.

This pin, felt of of the mechanism that raises it. The mechanism is a white plastic U shape arm that receives a signal from the sender (I bellieve is a electrostatic mechanism, but that is not inportant). Just accomodate the pin into the U shape plastic arm, and re-assemble!



1 hour of work if its your first time!

CAUTION - When removing the bolts from the gauge cluster (the electric panel\board), MAKE SURE YOU PUT THE BACK where they used to be, some are longer\widers and can cause more problems is misplaced on a wrong hole!!
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 11:17 AM
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If it went up before cranking, it is finding ground somewhere else. Check the wire to see if it making contact somewhere else. There should be no oil press marked on the gauge if the engine is not turning.
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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 10:21 AM
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If it went up before cranking, it is finding ground somewhere else. Check the wire to see if it making contact somewhere else. There should be no oil press marked on the gauge if the engine is not turning.
If that was the case, then the capacitor box at the the tranny (bolted to one of the clutch slave bolts) is broken or the sender cable is\was grounded.

On any case, he still need to engage the pin back into the U plastic thing....
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