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12-10-01, 12:21 AM
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why does everyone buy this ****? I'll i ever here is "go with racing beat" 60 hp!!!! bs. they charge an arm and a leg as well.
i never hear apexi anymore. or hks. you can buy two n1's for a price of a pos rb. im just sick of hearing it. it's getting worse than the "how do i do a n/a to turbo swap"?
and even a custom would be better. 4" for like 300 or so. maybe less.
blha blahaha blahahha im bored of this ****
i never hear apexi anymore. or hks. you can buy two n1's for a price of a pos rb. im just sick of hearing it. it's getting worse than the "how do i do a n/a to turbo swap"?
and even a custom would be better. 4" for like 300 or so. maybe less.
blha blahaha blahahha im bored of this ****
12-10-01, 12:27 AM
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ya I'd never pay the full price. I got mine slightly used for about 1/3 the price 
if I had to do it again I'd just buy a 3" downpipe and get a local shop to make me the rest.
but the Racing beat system is only a bit more then any aftermarket cat back. but you get the downpipe and presilencer with it to.
and the hp increase is just because it creeps too much. which is a bad thing
if I had to do it again I'd just buy a 3" downpipe and get a local shop to make me the rest. but the Racing beat system is only a bit more then any aftermarket cat back. but you get the downpipe and presilencer with it to.
and the hp increase is just because it creeps too much. which is a bad thing
12-10-01, 12:33 AM
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Racing Beat can Shut The Front Door!
I'd agree with RX-7 GT. I custom made my 3 inch exhaust and used mandral bends to fit it. It is wayyyy better than the racing beat crap. Oh, look at me, it has a RB stamp on it. Their Stock FCD sucks too! $100 for that crap too. Oh, and also, Racing Beat says the Apexi power FC sucks. and the Haltec is cheap and sucks too! I can back this up with a phone conversation with them when I asked them if they did any 4 rotor or 3 rotor designing/making. They say that all they use is EFI. Well, of course EFI is good, but who has the money? I'd say **** EFI! That **** isn't leagal either, I don't think. At least you have a chance passing smog with the Power FC or Haltec. And one more thing, they like to rip on competitors. I will not mention names, but I find this reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally GAY! As a matter of fact, I had some work done at a well known shop that they ripped on. I would disagree with Racing beat and I will never buy there parts, unless I have too!
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12-10-01, 12:37 AM
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Re: Racing Beat can Shut The Front Door!
Originally posted by ReZ311
I'd agree with RX-7 GT. I custom made my 3 inch exhaust and used mandral bends to fit it. It is wayyyy better than the racing beat crap. Oh, look at me, it has a RB stamp on it. Their Stock FCD sucks too! $100 for that crap too. Oh, and also, Racing Beat says the Apexi power FC sucks. and the Haltec is cheap and sucks too! I can back this up with a phone conversation with them when I asked them if they did any 4 rotor or 3 rotor designing/making. They say that all they use is EFI. Well, of course EFI is good, but who has the money? I'd say **** EFI! That **** isn't leagal either, I don't think. At least you have a chance passing smog with the Power FC or Haltec. And one more thing, they like to rip on competitors. I will not mention names, but I find this reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally GAY! As a matter of fact, I had some work done at a well known shop that they ripped on. I would disagree with Racing beat and I will never buy there parts, unless I have too!
-Excellent post RX-7 GT. I don't go by Namebrands either.
I'd agree with RX-7 GT. I custom made my 3 inch exhaust and used mandral bends to fit it. It is wayyyy better than the racing beat crap. Oh, look at me, it has a RB stamp on it. Their Stock FCD sucks too! $100 for that crap too. Oh, and also, Racing Beat says the Apexi power FC sucks. and the Haltec is cheap and sucks too! I can back this up with a phone conversation with them when I asked them if they did any 4 rotor or 3 rotor designing/making. They say that all they use is EFI. Well, of course EFI is good, but who has the money? I'd say **** EFI! That **** isn't leagal either, I don't think. At least you have a chance passing smog with the Power FC or Haltec. And one more thing, they like to rip on competitors. I will not mention names, but I find this reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally GAY! As a matter of fact, I had some work done at a well known shop that they ripped on. I would disagree with Racing beat and I will never buy there parts, unless I have too!
-Excellent post RX-7 GT. I don't go by Namebrands either.
12-10-01, 01:04 AM
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Have you ever seen a Racing Beat system?
I have, and its the only production system any where NEAR the quality. There are very few compaines that are going to be able to mass produce a system that can handle the high heat created by a turbo rotary, with dual muflers and a presiliencer. And if your in CA most shops that do good work will flat out luagh at you if you ask them to build a full, no-cat exhuast system for you.
And incase you didnt notice, the Apex and HKS crap is a cat back.... understand what that means? CAT-BACK.... not TURBO-BACK. The N1 dual costs almost $700, Is cat back, ugly, and is NOT going to flow anymore than a full RB system, which is 3"+ all the way to the y-pipe, where it splits from 3" to dual 2.5" mufflers.
The Apex and HKS systems are made to bolt to stock exhuast. That means even the '80mm systems' like the N1 (single) still pinch down to a 2" flange to bolt upto the stock location. Yeah, that sounds GGGGGGGRRRRRRREEEEEEAAATTTTTT
And incase you hadent noticed some people don't feel like waking the neighbors ever time they start thier cars, plus dont like the 'Dual Pumpkin Luancher' look. I already cuase enough trouble and break enough laws... the last thing i need is to atract MORE attention from the authorities and public. An import with giant polished mufflers is like driving around with one of those stupid 'Bad Cop, No donut' bumper stickers. All you'r saying is please pull me over.
This is the first time i've ever heard anyone saying stuff from Greddy, Apex, or HK$ is sold at a good price, especially thier exhuast system. Thier **** is ungodly expensive and ussally consists of no more than a guady tacky muffler and 2' of pipe.
I have, and its the only production system any where NEAR the quality. There are very few compaines that are going to be able to mass produce a system that can handle the high heat created by a turbo rotary, with dual muflers and a presiliencer. And if your in CA most shops that do good work will flat out luagh at you if you ask them to build a full, no-cat exhuast system for you.
And incase you didnt notice, the Apex and HKS crap is a cat back.... understand what that means? CAT-BACK.... not TURBO-BACK. The N1 dual costs almost $700, Is cat back, ugly, and is NOT going to flow anymore than a full RB system, which is 3"+ all the way to the y-pipe, where it splits from 3" to dual 2.5" mufflers.
The Apex and HKS systems are made to bolt to stock exhuast. That means even the '80mm systems' like the N1 (single) still pinch down to a 2" flange to bolt upto the stock location. Yeah, that sounds GGGGGGGRRRRRRREEEEEEAAATTTTTT
And incase you hadent noticed some people don't feel like waking the neighbors ever time they start thier cars, plus dont like the 'Dual Pumpkin Luancher' look. I already cuase enough trouble and break enough laws... the last thing i need is to atract MORE attention from the authorities and public. An import with giant polished mufflers is like driving around with one of those stupid 'Bad Cop, No donut' bumper stickers. All you'r saying is please pull me over.
This is the first time i've ever heard anyone saying stuff from Greddy, Apex, or HK$ is sold at a good price, especially thier exhuast system. Thier **** is ungodly expensive and ussally consists of no more than a guady tacky muffler and 2' of pipe.
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And incase you hadent noticed some people don't feel like waking the neighbors ever time they start thier cars, plus dont like the 'Dual Pumpkin Luancher' look. I already cuase enough trouble and break enough laws... the last thing i need is to atract MORE attention from the authorities and public. An import with giant polished mufflers is like driving around with one of those stupid 'Bad Cop, No donut' bumper stickers. All you'r saying is please pull me over.
Have you ever seen a Racing Beat system?
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Originally posted by Dyre
Have you ever seen a Racing Beat system?
I have, and its the only production system any where NEAR the quality. There are very few compaines that are going to be able to mass produce a system that can handle the high heat created by a turbo rotary, with dual muflers and a presiliencer. And if your in CA most shops that do good work will flat out luagh at you if you ask them to build a full, no-cat exhuast system for you.
And incase you didnt notice, the Apex and HKS crap is a cat back.... understand what that means? CAT-BACK.... not TURBO-BACK. The N1 dual costs almost $700, Is cat back, ugly, and is NOT going to flow anymore than a full RB system, which is 3"+ all the way to the y-pipe, where it splits from 3" to dual 2.5" mufflers.
The Apex and HKS systems are made to bolt to stock exhuast. That means even the '80mm systems' like the N1 (single) still pinch down to a 2" flange to bolt upto the stock location. Yeah, that sounds GGGGGGGRRRRRRREEEEEEAAATTTTTT
And incase you hadent noticed some people don't feel like waking the neighbors ever time they start thier cars, plus dont like the 'Dual Pumpkin Luancher' look. I already cuase enough trouble and break enough laws... the last thing i need is to atract MORE attention from the authorities and public. An import with giant polished mufflers is like driving around with one of those stupid 'Bad Cop, No donut' bumper stickers. All you'r saying is please pull me over.
This is the first time i've ever heard anyone saying stuff from Greddy, Apex, or HK$ is sold at a good price, especially thier exhuast system. Thier **** is ungodly expensive and ussally consists of no more than a guady tacky muffler and 2' of pipe.
Have you ever seen a Racing Beat system?
I have, and its the only production system any where NEAR the quality. There are very few compaines that are going to be able to mass produce a system that can handle the high heat created by a turbo rotary, with dual muflers and a presiliencer. And if your in CA most shops that do good work will flat out luagh at you if you ask them to build a full, no-cat exhuast system for you.
And incase you didnt notice, the Apex and HKS crap is a cat back.... understand what that means? CAT-BACK.... not TURBO-BACK. The N1 dual costs almost $700, Is cat back, ugly, and is NOT going to flow anymore than a full RB system, which is 3"+ all the way to the y-pipe, where it splits from 3" to dual 2.5" mufflers.
The Apex and HKS systems are made to bolt to stock exhuast. That means even the '80mm systems' like the N1 (single) still pinch down to a 2" flange to bolt upto the stock location. Yeah, that sounds GGGGGGGRRRRRRREEEEEEAAATTTTTT
And incase you hadent noticed some people don't feel like waking the neighbors ever time they start thier cars, plus dont like the 'Dual Pumpkin Luancher' look. I already cuase enough trouble and break enough laws... the last thing i need is to atract MORE attention from the authorities and public. An import with giant polished mufflers is like driving around with one of those stupid 'Bad Cop, No donut' bumper stickers. All you'r saying is please pull me over.
This is the first time i've ever heard anyone saying stuff from Greddy, Apex, or HK$ is sold at a good price, especially thier exhuast system. Thier **** is ungodly expensive and ussally consists of no more than a guady tacky muffler and 2' of pipe.
uh okay. no, actually i could give a rats *** what my neighbors' think. racing beat is blown way out of proportion, as is all thier ****.
all i know is once you get to a upgraded turbo racing beat is ***. what you need is a 4" straight back, single. lighther, cheaper and yes can support enough heat for a rotary.
we will compare dyno numbers once im done
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The Apex and HKS systems are made to bolt to stock exhuast. That means even the '80mm systems' like the N1 (single) still pinch down to a 2" flange to bolt upto the stock location. Yeah, that sounds GGGGGGGRRRRRRREEEEEEAAATTTTTT
This is the first time i've ever heard anyone saying stuff from Greddy, Apex, or HK$ is sold at a good price, especially thier exhuast system. Thier **** is ungodly expensive and ussally consists of no more than a guady tacky muffler and 2' of pipe.
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yea even though greddy and apex are good. they are way to expensive dude. that Potato launcher style should left to the hondas. just some nice plain slant tips would be nice. and who cares about RB tshirts. **** i would never buy one. you want power? just have a down pipe and take the rest of the **** off. and pay the emmisions dude a 50.
12-10-01, 01:32 AM
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Im not worried about 'when i get a bigger turbo'
and the only thing that would have to be changed is the DP. Easy to replace.
You seamed to miss my point about attention didnt you? Pissed off neighbors = phone calls to the police = fines = finding illegeal exhuast = me spending **** loads of money to get all new mazda OEM exhuast and emmisions parts so i can drive around with a slow peice of ****.
And Racing beats **** IS NOT over rated. Thier systems are definatly well made and high quality. Im sure the system will out live any other complete system with similar specs at a similar price.
The only way your going to get a better system is having someone custom build you a full exhaust. Which can be extermly difficult in a place like CA. Im not saying i cant get exhuast work done, but most places willing to break federal law do very low quality work that will hold up fine on a basically stock piston engine, but it going burn up and fall apart on a high hp turbo rotary.
Im consfused. So you have a custom exhuast from turbo -> somewhere -> HKS cat back? And you couldnt bolt it on?
Maybe if your going to argue something you should trying doing so with more than one incomplete irrelavant sentance.
Im not buying anything from anyone. Check out the store hosting and paying for these forums. They have some of the best prices on most things rotary. The Apex GT costs almost $600. The N1 dual is the same. The HK$ Hiper Dual is $830. The HK$ hiper racing is $1400!!! 
Do i really need to go on? For what you get Racing Beat does not suck.
If they sucked soooo bad they wouldnt still have been in the buisness of rotary performance for 30 PLUS YEARS.
and the only thing that would have to be changed is the DP. Easy to replace.
You seamed to miss my point about attention didnt you? Pissed off neighbors = phone calls to the police = fines = finding illegeal exhuast = me spending **** loads of money to get all new mazda OEM exhuast and emmisions parts so i can drive around with a slow peice of ****.
And Racing beats **** IS NOT over rated. Thier systems are definatly well made and high quality. Im sure the system will out live any other complete system with similar specs at a similar price.
The only way your going to get a better system is having someone custom build you a full exhaust. Which can be extermly difficult in a place like CA. Im not saying i cant get exhuast work done, but most places willing to break federal law do very low quality work that will hold up fine on a basically stock piston engine, but it going burn up and fall apart on a high hp turbo rotary.
Hey, HKS kicks ***. And no, mine was not bolt on! I have custom mandral bends all the way back.
Maybe if your going to argue something you should trying doing so with more than one incomplete irrelavant sentance.
STOP BUYING FROM WWW.NOPI.COM !!!!
Do i really need to go on? For what you get Racing Beat does not suck.
If they sucked soooo bad they wouldnt still have been in the buisness of rotary performance for 30 PLUS YEARS.
12-10-01, 01:55 AM
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If they sucked soooo bad they wouldnt still have been in the buisness of rotary performance for 30 PLUS YEARS. [/B][/QUOTE]
One thing I think you guys fail to realize is all the developmental work that racing beat has done on the rotary. They offer products that they actually test on rotaries not just mass produce products for honda and everything else. I think Apexi and Greddy and some of the others our reputable companies but they are not as dedicated to the rotary as racing beat.
One thing I think you guys fail to realize is all the developmental work that racing beat has done on the rotary. They offer products that they actually test on rotaries not just mass produce products for honda and everything else. I think Apexi and Greddy and some of the others our reputable companies but they are not as dedicated to the rotary as racing beat.
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Im consfused. So you have a custom exhuast from turbo -> somewhere -> HKS cat back? And you couldnt bolt it on?
The Apex and HKS systems are made to bolt to stock exhuast. That means even the '80mm systems' like the N1 (single) still pinch down to a 2" flange to bolt upto the stock location. Yeah, that sounds GGGGGGGRRRRRRREEEEEEAAATTTTTT
uh okay. no, actually i could give a rats *** what my neighbors' think. racing beat is blown way out of proportion, as is all thier ****.
Actually, I got a compliment from my neighbor who is a cop. :p
that Potato launcher style should left to the hondas
all i know is once you get to a upgraded turbo racing beat is ***. what you need is a 4" straight back, single. lighther, cheaper and yes can support enough heat for a rotary.
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well we all have our differences. but that doesnt mean one or the other company sucks. we can only go by in what we belive in. some people just have different taste. just dont bust on one person cause they like a company you dont. cant we just get along?
12-10-01, 09:29 AM
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Ok, i don't have a T2, but i do have a n/a RB exaust. To be honest, i like the near stock look. The tone is'nt to loud, wich is a big plus for me. After daily driving a peripheral port engine for 3-4yrs, noise levels get very tiresome. And the quality is top notch. I also bought mine through rob at about 1/2 price.
If you call Rob at Pineapple (or corksport), he'll tell you that the PFC is'nt that great (plus the pfc is'nt extremely tuneable.) The halteck just does'nt have the speed of a Moteck. And Moteck is simply the best, only because of one thing. Processor speed. No one else can even come close. What does pettit, m2, and i think pf use on there new race cars? moteck. And i bet ya, RB used a moteck too.
Just this last friday i had a converstation with him about doing a single conversion for my FD. He told me as far as ecus go, wait a lttle while for a new system coming out from europe. The thing will have near the speed as a motec, but will basically be able to program itself, with a wide band 02.
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If you call Rob at Pineapple (or corksport), he'll tell you that the PFC is'nt that great (plus the pfc is'nt extremely tuneable.) The halteck just does'nt have the speed of a Moteck. And Moteck is simply the best, only because of one thing. Processor speed. No one else can even come close. What does pettit, m2, and i think pf use on there new race cars? moteck. And i bet ya, RB used a moteck too.
Just this last friday i had a converstation with him about doing a single conversion for my FD. He told me as far as ecus go, wait a lttle while for a new system coming out from europe. The thing will have near the speed as a motec, but will basically be able to program itself, with a wide band 02.
CJ
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What part do you not understand? Yes I pass smog!
I have 1 big CAT. that is between the turbo and the HKS Muffler.
You insult racing beat, ill insult your polished coconut launcher.. OK?
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If you call Rob at Pineapple (or corksport), he'll tell you that the PFC is'nt that great (plus the pfc is'nt extremely tuneable.) The halteck just does'nt have the speed of a Moteck. And Moteck is simply the best, only because of one thing. Processor speed. No one else can even come close. What does pettit, m2, and i think pf use on there new race cars? moteck. And i bet ya, RB used a moteck too.
You insult racing beat, ill insult your polished coconut launcher.. OK?
And if you call my HKS muffler a coconut launcher, I call your racing beat setup an over-rated POS!
Dunno, but I'd trust a 30-year rotary-only shop over one that makes most of it's $$ rice-ifying Civics any day
Ok then, you DONT have an HK$ system
12-10-01, 12:48 PM
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I have to say that I disagree. I've never had any prolbems with RacingBeats products. I haven't bought an exhaust from but I have bought several other things from them. They also lapped my housings for me. The service is always good and if there was ever a prolbem they always called me. Im also not saying that all of there product are the best though, but I am say they should get some credit since they have been in the business since the the first RX's were out.
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ALRIGHT JERKS, I'M LAYING DOWN THE LAW:
For starters everyone just quit their sassy trappin. Most of you argue with the wrong head it seems. Not everyone on this FORUM has the same car. YES they're 2nd GEN, but no two are EQUAL......
As for CARB, who gives a RATS ***....THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR LIVING IN CALIFORNIA.!!!!! We don't have that problem in the Lonestar state...or the other 45% of the country. So that isn't always everyone's concern.
Not everyone drives a weekend only, T-78, 120 shot of NOS, gutted interior, BP motor, Electromotive, w/ no A/C rx7 ......."Uh what does that mean???????" That everyones aftermarket needs are different.
If someone doesn't like RB then that's their problem and maybe their loss...who knows. I never had problems with them, but the point is that; that individual has that choice. IMO ALL NAME BRANDS ARE OVER-PRICED. wether it's intakes or Clothing. Worse is that we don't have as many service and goods providers as other car enthusiasts. SO just DEAL WITH IT or go get a Z28 ohhhohhhh How about a nice CIVIC with lots of V-TEC stickers. okay now i need a nap.
For starters everyone just quit their sassy trappin. Most of you argue with the wrong head it seems. Not everyone on this FORUM has the same car. YES they're 2nd GEN, but no two are EQUAL......
As for CARB, who gives a RATS ***....THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR LIVING IN CALIFORNIA.!!!!! We don't have that problem in the Lonestar state...or the other 45% of the country. So that isn't always everyone's concern.
Not everyone drives a weekend only, T-78, 120 shot of NOS, gutted interior, BP motor, Electromotive, w/ no A/C rx7 ......."Uh what does that mean???????" That everyones aftermarket needs are different.
If someone doesn't like RB then that's their problem and maybe their loss...who knows. I never had problems with them, but the point is that; that individual has that choice. IMO ALL NAME BRANDS ARE OVER-PRICED. wether it's intakes or Clothing. Worse is that we don't have as many service and goods providers as other car enthusiasts. SO just DEAL WITH IT or go get a Z28 ohhhohhhh How about a nice CIVIC with lots of V-TEC stickers. okay now i need a nap.