Yo,


I said it before, and I'll say it again: People sure love talking out of their *** here on the Forum.

Yeah, Racing Beat sucks ***. Please. Are you really that ignorant? Wait: "RB is Sucks" is the title of this. "Racing Beat is Sucks." Um, yes, you ARE that ignorant.

Racing Beat is the greatest friend to any rotary owner out there, and to see their impeccable reputation called into question is unacceptable.

I own a RB downpipe/presilencer, and the craftsmanship is second to none. Do you know how to weld stainless steel? Do you know what a great SS weld looks like? My buddy just got a NA RB cat back system and it is jewel-like in its perfection.

In words you can understand:

Racing Beat is the ****. I am 100% on their dick.

Racing Beat has done more, if not the most, to keep the rotary fires burning here at home. Have you seen their catalog? There is more rotary knowledge in that tome than you will EVER know. They have parts for RX-2's, 3's, EVERYTHING. They do constant R&D, they race, they do land speed records, they work with MAZDA directly.

Yeah, you're right, they suck ***.

As an RX-7 owner, you should be thankful that such a great company like Racing Beat is there for us.

KS
1989 GTUs "About to get Racing Beat Springs, Swaybars, and upper strut bar."

 

I would consider it. Nicely made, but not stainless (assuming we are talking about the same one), so keep that in mind. They sound ok too. (the price is a LOT less than most others due to the "no stainless" thing)

I think they have a stainless one too... not sure though. RP won't sell crap, so don't worry about the quality. If they have it for sale, it's at least decent. They also have great customer service- which in my opinion is worth MORE than a few bucks difference in price.

The Apexi N1 single is a great exhaust too. Light, not too expensive (I've seen it for $299 before) and free-flowing.
It's also easier to do things like change the driveshaft with the single.

A single is better than a "dual" EXCEPT for the "TRUE" dual for the NA cars like the RB dual. (Mazdatrix dual)

Keep in mind that these are CAT-BACK not TURBO-BACK exhausts. The Racing Beat full exhaust replaces the cats too. (With a pre-silencer I think.)

 

One other thing: Racing Beat makes quality stuff. At a previous DFW club dyno day, we replaced the exhaust on an FD with a RB system. (Rotary Performance hosted the dyno day, and let us use a lift and tools to do "tech" also! Thanks Ari and Chris!)

We replaced the exhaust in about 15 minutes, including taking pictures. The quality, fit, and look were all top-notch. It made 8.x HP on the dyno (we did a before and after) with just replacing a cat-back, no other changes. The big surprise? We didn't replace a STOCK cat-back, we replaced a different aftermarket one. (Pacesetter I think.) Just over 8 HP difference between 2 aftermarket cat-back systems? I'd say that's significant. It also sounded better and looked very near stock.

 

Dah!

 

Hav you teen my bateball?
This argument is wee-tod-ed.

 

fastrotaries is right. We all have different needs. In my own personal opinion I would put Racing Beat **** throughout my car. But I don't have the loot. For a company that's been in the business for 30 years they sure have come a long way and they cater to the rotary engine and thats it. How could you dog a company such as this. Prices are high, but what's the old saying? You get what you pay for.

 

Perfectly said!

 

Hehehe, you think? I agree with you on all counts, but you may be wasting your time trying to explain this to people who haven't passed 8th grade spelling, don't know that Motec = EFI, don't understand the difference between an NA and turbo exhaust, and think that the value of an exhaust system is based solely on the diameter of the piping or muffler tip. If they want to hate RB, then I don't think that any facts are going to change their mind.

Yes, it looks like the welds on my custom 20B turbo-back exhaust from Sidewinder Racing. Only $1,600 USD (plus about $1,000 more for mufflers and cat) and you can get one, too!

 

So you are basically just arguing that they are expensive, right? Other than you saying they charge too much I only read that they are a "pos" which we all know is not true at all. I would have to agree with the fact that they charge alot but have only heard good about their quality from people that have products & the header I have is very top-notch. The mufflers/or cat-back systems are kinda high in price, but I don't think that $187 for a header is bad at all. Mine cost $200 but well worth it to me.

 

then that would make you 100% GAY

 

Then who the **** are you arguing with? I already said custom systems are ussally a good deal if done at a competent shop that WILL do it. I was saying RB is more than a deal when compared to the over priced cat-backs produced by HK$, Apex, Etc...

Evil also beat me to the motec (ITS MOTEC DAMNIT) point. You also know that motec system cost almost twice that of a Haltech, right? Sure its the best, but you have to pay for it too. Personally, i dont think you have a CLUE, either that, or you have the some of the worst comunication skills i've seen in awhile.

OT: Evil, i've got a few random questions about the 20b- What turbo, tranny, and ecu are you planning on using? I think you said Wolf3d, right?

 

Not only do they provide us with sweet parts that "THEY ACTUALLY TEST THEMSELVES", but they also provide us with Sweet footage of their 3rd gen crashing at 215 MPH because they didn't have enough down force (I guess they should have gone with the Type II and not the Type 1 RB wing lol)

They're cool.

 

When i first started looking for aftermarket products i called Racing Beat with all sorts of questions. Although they could have sold me all kinds of stuff i didnt need at the time they did not. They where extremely helpful. Never tried to talk me into buying anything. They just gave me the real info. Even when i got my sway bars i asked about the adjustable endlinks they said you dont need them the sway bars will be fine with the stock units. thats over $100.00 extra they would make off me and they said i would be fine without them. (ofcourse i bought them). I called up HKS and these other companies mentioned and i got alot of I dont knows. Racing Beat is a high quality organization that will be the first people i call if i need a product. 30 years strictly rotary. 1998. Engineered 3 rotor, single turbo drag engine producing 820HP@8700rpm. 1992 3 rotor 3 turbo 13g engine producing 944HP@8700rpm. Bonneville salt flat records. 1999 3 rotor aviation engine 900 HP@6750rpm. I cant list everything they have done here. Including all the road racing wins including 24 hrs of Daytona. get off there back and buy a freakin Honda.

 

YEAH, I got that clip. Kazaa has alot of cool RX stuff. i recently got a 2 minute music video of drifting from Japan badassssss.

 

lol

 

Dyre, you've made some good remarks, thanks.

I was beginning to think that all this list is comprised of, are riceboys. With their heads up their asses buying whatever the manufacturers claim work. Or buying what they saw some other guy buy.

The fact of the matter is, when you are going to customize your car, you have to have a goal. I am currently building an 89 gtu for SCCA IT racing. So, I will be looking to build a custom exhaust, I dont have the money for RB, so I will order the stainless, desing my primary lengths, order a Burns Stainless Collector, and then run a single pipe on back, no cat (cause its a RACE CAR). I will probably, change the air filter, take all the accessories off the car..... turn it into a RACE CAR. But those are my goals.

If I were building an all out street car, yeah, I'd put a Motec in, probably spend a hundred hours on an engine dyno tuning spark, fuel, enrichment maps... all the variables you can play with, with a motec. (which in my experience is a far superior to the Haltech). I used a Haltech F9A, which admittedly isn't as nice as the E6 or the newer one, but their interface software is horrible. I was able to jump onto a Motec from the bat and be able to make changes to the maps, and not mess things up. It also has the faster processer, more inputs, more software functions... yeah, its better. Then I'd put a monster turbo, 3rotor, or scratch that, 4-rotor (I mean, there's like 12 in existence, right?), oh yeah, and then make all carbon fibre body work, oh and lexan windows, no interior, PI dash,... oh ****, looks like its a RACE CAR again.

As for RB, they produce a quality component, because they understand that if you race with something, prove that it works, then produce a part that is just as nice as your race part, you will be able to sell it for whatever you want. Because, when everyone is racing against you, they will try everything in their power to try to get whatever it is they think is making you go fast.

Ok, moral of the story:
Buy whatever you want, someone will always have something faster, if not now, soon thereafter.
You get what you pay for.
More expensive may not always be better, but it usually is.
Be careful who you listen to, very few people are honest.
And these are cars, Money always buys speed, so, how fast do you want to go = how fast do you want to spend.

 

I think that APEXi is good, and Racing Beat is good, and HKS is good, and Custom is good (makes you feel good cause you didn't pay brand name prices). and Greddy is good and ..... everyone is good.

Obviously some people like their brand name, and some people like Racing Beat, while others go custom...

But does it really matter...just looking at the amount of income either of these companies make, and considering that everyone that has any of these products likes them...wouldn't that mean that they are all good?

I mean, if any of them REALLY sucked, they would start losing money and eventually go broke. (Like FORD...please don't bicker at me for this statement, I drive a ford and it is reliable for me, but most people hate ford....ford is losing money though slowly...but I think that all the automotive companies are simply because almost everyone has a car or truck now and plus NONE of the automotive companies makes the cars like they used to...well....except Mazda Japan..they're cool too)

 

No flames. Warning #1

 

Any company is going to have customers that are less than satisfied. as far as Ford is concerned it is my understanding that they own upwards of 85% of Mazda now. what would that say about the RX-8? if im correct that would make the Renesis a a Ford? Maybe im wrong, i have been in the past. Me personally i like cars. i drive an RX-7 cuz they give me a freakin hard on. I dont fault you for driving a Ford. although my second car would be an RX-7.

 

I have that t-shirt ;-)

 

I got to step up and give praise to Racing Beat. About three months ago I was looking for an exhaust system for my GTUs. I was originally looking to buy the HKS 50mm because a bud of mine has it. Reason I was going to go with the HKS is number 1 looks almost stock, number 2 sounds great, and 3 it’s HKS!! But after finding out it was going to take between 2-5 months to get the system I looked around. Before I make this comment, I like Greddy and Apexi’s products (I have the power intake) but DAMN there mufflers are HUGE!!! Did I mention that the tips are the size of grapefruit launchers?!?!? It’s all good for other people but for me it was way to big and it would draw two much attention to the local 5ohhh. From there I looked into Racing Beat’s exhaust system. There system looks nice but not to big, and it’s full stainless steel. These guys at Racing Beat have been doing this for a long time and when it comes to representing the rotary world everyone knows them. Hell open a Hyper-REV book and in the parts section Racing beat is there!!! Don’t get me started on the price lets see here the Racing Beat system is $655.00, the Apexi N1 dual is $719.95, the Apexi N1 single is $519.95, and the Greddy Power/way to huge extreme is $898.95!!!! Ok so the N1 single is cheaper but if you want to keep it Dual exhaust it looks like Racing Beat has the upper hand! Racing beat has done nothing but exceed my expectations when it comes to customer service. I do order parts from other companies but Racing Beat has earned a reputation and people need to respect that. Peace

 

Wow didn't this get blown way out of proportion.

 

I have a couple of questions.

1) Why is this forum so god damn slow now?

2) Why does everyone keep saying that Racing Beat is rotary only? Have you people ever heard of a little car called a Miata? What about another little econobox called the Protege MP3?


Oh and BTW Racing Beat sucks!....... Wait a minute...no it doesnt!....yes it does! NUH UH. UH HU. you suck! no you do! Blah. Blah. Blah.


Mike

 

You're an idiot!. We are just talking about RacingBeat exaust here. I personally love my FULL TURBO BACK EXAUST.

 

I HAVE A R/B TURBO BACK EXHAUST AND I AM VERY HAPPY WITH IT. I REMOVED THE PRE-SILENCER AND INSTALLED A 3" STRAIGHT PIPE. ALSO THE MUFFLERS ARE LO KEY AND NOT FLASHY, SO IT DOES'NT ATTRACT JOHNNY LAW AS MUCH....