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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 10:32 PM
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ran out of gas!! need some help

so ya sadly i thought id make it home off the lil gas i "thought" i had so i was driving home i got about 30 seconds from my house when car died.....so then i push it in driveway and dad goes and gets 15 dollars worth gas and i try and start it and...ya no luck...im wondering do u have to do something special to start the rx7's after they run out of gas?
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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anyone? its my daily driver so id appreciate it alot!!! lol. i called a few people and only thing ive heard so far is i mighta killed the fuel pump. :S but i got a extra fd one. but not sure if maybe i just gotta do something "special" to make it start back up :s
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 11:58 PM
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im pretty sure alot of fuel pumps are lubricated by the fuel in the tank...its possible that you could have screwed it up. i know after a couple of times of running the tank dry in my old honda i had to replace the fuel pump. correct me if im wrong anyone
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 12:03 AM
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did you try holding in the gas peddle when cranking?

not the best way to do it but it might work
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 12:12 AM
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check the plugs..see if you have Wet Plugs.(could have inadvertently flooded trying to start it)..you could always Try some "QUICKSTART" ,starting fluid(ether)..or try Pull or Push start..(rollin the car to a speed,and Droppin the clutch).. Another thing I would also be checkin Seein you ran It DRY is the Fuel Filter..It could have sucked up Crap from the bottom of the Tank ,and you aren't gettin fuel because of that....another Note..depending On Generation of car,when you hold down the gas pedal on Starting it will Give you Fuel Cut.anyhow somethin to go by..Hope you get started.EDIT..Please Be careful if you are Using Starter fluid or PUSH/Pull Startin ..

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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 12:41 AM
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thx everyone imma try all this stuff tommorow after work i miss driving her already lol...one thing for sure is im not letting it run ouitta gas again....i just hope whatveer it is isnt expensive. could i of fucked up the engine? how can i check fuel pump so see if its bad or not??
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 12:55 AM
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rule of thumb never run your 15+ years old car below 2 gallons...why!! 15 years of dirt and grime can kill your injectors,fuel pick up, pump, lines,etc.....

good luck with the car bro hope everything works good so you can enjoy her
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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well me and dad r trying to do pressure check on gas tank and do some other **** but here are some pics of inside hood he was wondering what this is thats unhooked theres alot of **** thats not hooke dto anythign under my hood lol


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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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That pipe is the air supply pipe for your stock catalytic converter.
You're not running your stock exhaust anymore?


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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by rx7se88
im pretty sure alot of fuel pumps are lubricated by the fuel in the tank...its possible that you could have screwed it up. i know after a couple of times of running the tank dry in my old honda i had to replace the fuel pump. correct me if im wrong anyone

Yep...that will ruin a fuel pump in most cases.....however, turn your key on and let the system pressurizd, this is of course after you have checked for flooding
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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not only is the pump lubricated by the fuel it is also cooled by the fuel. did you disconnect your fuel line near the oil filter and see if it is flowing be very careful when you do this. put the hose in a 1 or 2 liter bottle and see if fuel is being pumped.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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push start works everytime
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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So... instead of telling him his pump is done for, which may or may not be the case...

There's a fuel pump test jumper on the passenger's side of the engine bay, near the strut tower. It's yellow, two-pronged. Short it, turn the key on, and wait for 15-20 seconds for the system to prime. If there's air in the fuel system, it won't start.

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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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thx everyone!! i really appreciate all the help. still havent figured it out exactly but i been working 10 hours a day so not much time. sux i have to bum rides for people at the moment. someone told me i mighta blown engine cause i let it run out of gas, could this be true? when i turn key it just doesnt fire up but it cranks fine :s
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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I dont know how running out of fuel could blow your engine, dont think its that
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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and no reted i have racing beat 3 and a half inch turbo cat back exaust with a test pipe(no cat)
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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and no reted i have racing beat 3 and a half inch turbo cat back exaust with a test pipe(no cat)
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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you still havent told us if you have tried push starting it yet
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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Sounds like a fuel delivery issue.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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"There's a fuel pump test jumper on the passenger's side of the engine bay, near the strut tower. It's yellow" we been lookin for that but cant seem to find it, anyone got a pic of it or something? thx and no havent tryed to push start it like i said been working 9-10 hour days very short time but tommorow is day off so all these ideas r gonna be looked into
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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is the thing i circled the tester? or does anyone see it in that pic? the guy who owned car before me tore alot of **** out theres so much crap not wired to anything :s i get lost in the mess
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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ooook so heres the update, we just tryed to push start it at 10mph then 20 then 30 and it trys to start but doesnt get any fuel. then we parked it and jacked it up and took off the fuel filter and dad blew on it and fuel goes all the way through so we dont think its the fuel filter, so what things do i have left that it can be? only thing we can think of as all of u have said pretty much is...fuel pump :s im just trying to make sure thats my last resort thing thx all and ya still cant find the fuel pump check thing(yellow thing near passenger tower) any opinions r greatly appreciated
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 12:30 AM
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Get a fuel pressure gauge. Also, if you put your ear next to the fuel pump when you turn the ignition on, can you hear it?
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 01:29 AM
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Pinch the hose *coming off the fuel filter* in the engine bay.
If there is fuel pressure, the hose will harden up.
This is a quick-n-dirty test to see if the fuel pump is working.


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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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Tony, I don't think you blew your engine. That was a possibility if you were revved up high enough, but I'd have to agree with everyone else here that it sounds like a fuel delivery issue.

And the quick test that Ted mentioned is a very easy way to verify if you are getting fuel to the fuel rails or not. Best of luck with getting it running again.

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