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Old 05-23-10, 05:35 PM
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Unhappy Racing Beat Header Installation Help

Hi recently bought a racing beat header for a vert, and im in a sticky situation. Its looking like its going to be a hassle to put it on. I need a step by step instruction on how and what to remove to put on the racing beat header. Also any modifications needed after its on thanks!
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remove the 4 nuts holding the old header onto the car. remove the nuts and pipes up to the cat converter. place header onto the engine and put the old nuts back on.

You will need to remove the under tray which is held on by 10mm bolts around the edges.

It's too hard of an install. Hope you have a way to pass the visual inspection in california
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how do i acces the top two bolts? and how do i remove the top exhaust heat guard?
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universal joint on a ratchet.

one of these
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Try from above and below the car, I think you have to use a wrench. Those two are always a pain >_< Keep looking, there's some angle that you can get to them from.

Also on a vert I think you have to remove the vert-specific subframe, it's held on by 8 bolts, and then two hooks [lift up and then either forwards or backwards to get it off]

As for the exhaust heat shield... make sure you have the nuts/bolts on all sides removed [top, front, bottom]
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the heat shield has bolts that should break off during removal. thats fine. once its out of your way. then u can get 2 the top bolts. have the car jacked up so u can feel around. its a pain in the butt. get some mrwrench nut buster spray.
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Remove the 6 port actuators for a bit more room.

The header will not meet up with the stock cat unless you fab up an extension or use the presilencer.
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man this is sounding like a pain to install -.-
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I would just go to a shop and have someone else do it. Probably cost 1-2 hours of labor if they know what they are doing. Or pay a friend who has done it before.
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Originally Posted by Derekcat
Try from above and below the car, I think you have to use a wrench. Those two are always a pain >_< Keep looking, there's some angle that you can get to them from.

Also on a vert I think you have to remove the vert-specific subframe, it's held on by 8 bolts, and then two hooks [lift up and then either forwards or backwards to get it off]

As for the exhaust heat shield... make sure you have the nuts/bolts on all sides removed [top, front, bottom]
You can fit the subframe back on though right? Or do you have to remove it for good?
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Originally Posted by Derekcat
Also on a vert I think you have to remove the vert-specific subframe, it's held on by 8 bolts, and then two hooks [lift up and then either forwards or backwards to get it off
You do not have to remove anything besides the old exhaust manifold and exhaust components to get this header to fit. You will just make life harder on yourself if you follow those instructions....

If you still have the stock catalytic converter, I believe the header will bolt up to it. You will have to remove the pre-cats.

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man this is sounding like a pain to install -.-
Remove old exhaust manifold heat shield. Bolts will break like state before. Toss it in the trash. Remove 4 nuts holding exhaust manifold and go underneath the cat and remove the pre-cats connecting to the catalytic converter. Toss both items in the trash.

Install new header using 4 nuts previously removed. Done.

If for some odd reason I miscalculated the stock catalytic converter connecting to the header (i forgot how far the stock cat reaches), you will need to order a pre-silencer for that N/A Header. You will find out once you bolt the header up to the engine if you need it or not.
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cool thanks for the input im gonna try to do it tommorow! what happens to the actuators? should i just remove them?
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cool thanks for the input im gonna try to do it tommorow! what happens to the actuators? should i just remove them?
Remove them for easier access to the old manifold if you are struggling. You can do it with them on though... Depends how big your tool box is.
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should i block off the actuators later on?
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Actuators are good for a non ported engine! Leave them in working condition for as long as you stay N/A
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I removed my RB Road Race Exhaust system myself and put stock back on, call me crazy but I can't stand the exhaust smell. (Anybody want it? still in garage)

It was kinda a pain, take your time, take the 2 bottom nut at the bottom, and the top 2 from top of the car. much easier.
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Originally Posted by jjcobm
You do not have to remove anything besides the old exhaust manifold and exhaust components to get this header to fit. You will just make life harder on yourself if you follow those instructions....
That's what I did on mine.. Maybe it wasn't necessary, and in no way did I mean to imply that it should be left off.. >_> [I brought a pacesetter header to the exhaust shop to put on my old vert.. and they removed the frame, installed the header and then noticed that the subframe wouldn't bolt on... so they just left it off ~_~]

But it was *interesting* trying to wrestle the RB header on there even with the subframe off [I had to swap the entire exhaust systems between the base 87 and 90 vert..]

Give it a shot with the subframe still on there and let us know how it goes
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Originally Posted by Derekcat
That's what I did on mine.. Maybe it wasn't necessary, and in no way did I mean to imply that it should be left off.. >_> [I brought a pacesetter header to the exhaust shop to put on my old vert.. and they removed the frame, installed the header and then noticed that the subframe wouldn't bolt on... so they just left it off ~_~]

But it was *interesting* trying to wrestle the RB header on there even with the subframe off [I had to swap the entire exhaust systems between the base 87 and 90 vert..]

Give it a shot with the subframe still on there and let us know how it goes
The RB header, even the stock exhaust system, has plenty of room to install from the bottom into the engine on a vert, especially with the vert reinforcement bar on. I would be very mad if a shop tore down my car and left that reinforcement bar off on my vert, it would allow the frame to flex more than it was designed to.

The only way that reinforcement bar would be in the way is if you are trying to install it from the engine bay down (instead of under the car, into engine) with all the emissions still on the car. Yeah, it would get in the way if you did it like that, but with emissions removed, you can still get by (i was able to do it both ways).
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