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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 12:25 AM
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OH racing beat, or borla??

which should i go for... racing beat http://www.racingbeat.com/RX7-1986-1...sts/16420.html

or borla http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BOR-14192/

both cat back cuz in ohio you gotta have one for emissions check and 87 not quite old enough to not need to echeck. plus i read on here a lot that n/a's should have a cat anyway.. what do you all think. rb is deff cheaper and i can find vids on youtube. like how it sounds. but borla.. i mean come on its borla
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 12:40 AM
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plus i read on here a lot that n/a's should have a cat anyway..
bullshit.


I've never heard of anyone not liking borla...
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 12:43 AM
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i didnt say borla was bad. if i thought borla was bad. i would not have even asked what people preferred. i just dont know about 900 dollars for it. thats all.
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 12:44 AM
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and sorry i just said what ive read. ive read that n/a's need a cat cuz back pressure is important
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 02:21 AM
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With an S4, the 5th and 6th ports work off from the cat.

I'd buy two good looking mufflers and have a custom catback made.
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 02:25 AM
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You live in the wrong part of ohio my car just has 3in piping to a muffler.
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 05:53 AM
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RB: I have two friends, one with the RB catback and one with the Borla.

They're both nice and they both sound good, but the RB is a bit nicer sounding and a bit nicer looking. [Though Borla has a much better warranty that shouldn't be an issue with the quality of the RB system.]
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 07:22 AM
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I have had borla and RB on my car

The RB system is a nicer looking and slightly better sounding system, and should you decide later to change exhaust for some reason will have better resale value.

Unless you have a good local shop buy a bolt on system, getting dicked around by a shop that may not even do a good job or use stainless sucks and in the end you may end up paying more money.
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 08:18 AM
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yea i paid 50 dollar for free flow mufflers and bought piping at o riellys, like 100 for full exhuast (except headers still need them)
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 08:21 AM
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I have also owned both over the years, though the Racing Beat just arrived in the mail and there's snow on the ground here so it's still in its box.

The Borla uses all stainless piping while the Racing Beat does not. For example, the RB Y-pipe is what appears to be chrome plated mild steel though the RB mufflers and tips are all stainless. The Borla is also good bit lighter. The Racing Beat probably looks a little cooler, but I liked the low-key look of the Borla too, especially on an otherwise unmodified NA car.

I ran the Borla through about seven road salt-laden winters in Pennsylvania before parting that car out, and the exhaust still looked like brand new when I took it off. It's a very high quality setup. I always liked the sound of it; low and rumbly, not tinny and shrill like some cheaper exhausts.

Probably can't go wrong with either.
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 08:40 AM
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My prefence is RB every time.

Might I suggest their downpipe/presilencer as well. Only 4 bolts to deal with to swap the stock cats back in come emission test time and you enjoy an extra estimated 18 horses in between tests.
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by canonize-ryda
yea i paid 50 dollar for free flow mufflers and bought piping at o riellys, like 100 for full exhuast (except headers still need them)
none of which is stainless I assume
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the revTII system is all stainless
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 09:54 AM
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^^^ confirmed. He's buying for an NA though.
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 11:04 AM
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well basically i could prolly get lucky. cuz a friend of mine bought a 87 camaro and somehow didnt need echeck. this was last year. if i could get away with not having to. i would then deff do the downpipe and stuff. cuz the kid i bought car from is a total idiot. he plug the driver side exit on y pipe and didnt do it good at all. sounds like crap to begin with cuz there is like 90 leaks. plus evertime you start it exhaust comes up in the car thru the shifter area. so yeah exhaust is a kinda big issue for me.
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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haha so i got a 1800 dollar cart at racing beat. woot.. who loves spending money
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 11:53 AM
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I think you only need to have an e-check one time this year and then you are done till you can get a historical plate next year. I have an 87 and just purchased an Apexi gt spec catback and plan on getting my last e-check before installing it. You wont need another e-check after this year.
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 11:53 AM
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surely that's not just for exhaust
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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no. got hanger kit. cat replacement kit. cat back kit. then i need to do shocks and springs and ignition wires. ill be happy. i dont really wanna make it super holy **** fast. i just want it to be nice. and may as well do all struts since back ones are done for. and hell ill be there. why not springs..
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 12:01 PM
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ah another ohio guy. echeck blows. i think i may just wait it out till its 25 cuz im not too keen on them dynoing my stick. my dad had issues with echeck and mt and my buddy with camaro did with his s10 and then his newer camaro before the 87. every single one just mentioned. echeck fried the tranny and guess what. echeck didnt pay for it like they suppose to. i was actually with my buddy for his s10 and they had some girl do it. never shifted kept it in first and right before it failed trany gave.. and the guy of course. smart ***. was like i think thats a fail...
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dimitry04
i dont really wanna make it super holy **** fast...
You have a NA, so that will never be a problem.
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 12:37 PM
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hey im content with my more reliable and longer life span n/a. =D
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 02:08 PM
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The Borla kit can be had for less than $500 at most places online. Here is one for example: http://www.lmperformance.com/7006/94.html
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 02:15 PM
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well i like the racing beat more i think it would be nice addition. and full stainless aint a big deal. i dont plan on my 7 seeing rain or snow.
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pls91fc
The Borla kit can be had for less than $500 at most places online. Here is one for example: http://www.lmperformance.com/7006/94.html
beat me to it, you can have a muffler shop weld up the exhaust to 2 borla cans for far less than what they want for that catback.

+1 for Borla, i like RB but my Borla XR1 has an F1 tone to it which is why i am going to make it into a dual system versus the single when i have time and money to throw at it. going to use turndowns also when i do it, i prefer the simple look over the bling of the RB system too. i guess to me it just resembles the stock tips too much versus when you see turndowns you know something is going on...

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