Question about NOS
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Question about NOS
Hello,
I just got my TII and I'm looking for a quick preformance upgrade. I've been told that NOS will help out a lot. Anyway, my question is what brand of NOS should I buy and which is the best?
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I just got my TII and I'm looking for a quick preformance upgrade. I've been told that NOS will help out a lot. Anyway, my question is what brand of NOS should I buy and which is the best?
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NOS is a brand. I think you've watched FnF too much... it's called nitrous oxide, and I don't suggest using nitrous if you've just boughten your car, and don't have much exp with it... try getting some of the bolt-ons and fixing everything that is wrong with your car before you make any huge steps like nitrous. However if you want to read about it their is a huge article here. http://1300cc.com/howto/how2/NOS.htm
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He pretty much answered it for you. BUT, if you really want nitrous with no other mods(at least haven't told us about any), most nitrous is not much different really. I'd go with a regular NOS brand wet kit.
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Re: Question about NOS
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Hello,
I just got my TII and I'm looking for a quick preformance upgrade. I've been told that NOS will help out a lot.
Hello,
I just got my TII and I'm looking for a quick preformance upgrade. I've been told that NOS will help out a lot.
get a intake, exhuast, bigger fuel pump, boost controller at 10psi. and you will be running mid 13's with 250-260hp
but not untill everything is tuned up and running perfect before hand.
replace all tune up parts. plugs, wires, fuel filter, thermostat, coolant, diff and tranny fulid, and oil and filter. and have your timming and TPS checked / set.
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Originally posted by 7spiritR
Could anyone other than this Jackass answer my question?
Could anyone other than this Jackass answer my question?
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I would suggest not installing nitrous oxide on your car, rather that stick with the initial mods stated by rx7nub. They would help you out alot more and your engine will live alot longer. Also if your going to speak out and call people "jackasses" im sure i can speak for a couple of us here and maybe more than you can expect no further information from anyone.
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nitrous isn't dangerous if you set it up correctly, but if you buy new exhaust (and other upgrades to support the extra boost) you'll get another 50+ hp easily.
It's really easier to just go with other upgrades like exhaust, intake, etc.
It's really easier to just go with other upgrades like exhaust, intake, etc.
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Yes, but NOS is only good for drag racing, due to the fact that it is only short periods of boost, and it knocks years of life off your engine. Not to mention the fact that you will get the reatred people gathering around your car just because you have a NOS bottle in it, and it has no value in every day driveing.
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Originally posted by Cory Simpson
Yes, but NOS is only good for drag racing, due to the fact that it is only short periods of boost, and it knocks years of life off your engine. Not to mention the fact that you will get the reatred people gathering around your car just because you have a NOS bottle in it, and it has no value in every day driveing.
Yes, but NOS is only good for drag racing, due to the fact that it is only short periods of boost, and it knocks years of life off your engine. Not to mention the fact that you will get the reatred people gathering around your car just because you have a NOS bottle in it, and it has no value in every day driveing.
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Nitrious does not knock years off your engine if it is setup properly. And you can safely spray nitrious for up to 15 seconds at a time from what I have heard. Nitrious is pretty much a turbocharger that you control with the push of a button, it is just N2O, meaing 2 parts nitrogen, 1 part oxygen. It is cold, so you get really dense air really rich with oxygen going into your engine, match it with some extra fuel and you have yourself a good power gain, exact same a turbo forcing extra air into your engine. Except Nitrious is not as hard on an engine as a Turbo because you can control when it fires whereas a Turbo just boosts and you cannot turn it off.
Where to start, ohhh god where to start??? I'm not ging to comment on the first sentense because nitrous is hard on an engine. NOS is nothing like a turbo, a turbo gives boost NOS gives highly combustable gas, that will creat huge amounts of heat, (and there for making it harder on your engine) and a turbo is not hard on your engine unless you are running huge amounts of boost and even then it is better because you can sustain that extra power for much much longer periods of time, were as nitrous if you held it for more than that 15 seconds it will probably do some real damage to your engine (eating apex seals baby). And you can release the boost on a turbo there are two ways, one stops the turbo from spooling and that is called a waste gate and the other lets the exess pressure off and it is called a blow off valve (I know there is more detail to that, but I don't want to be here all night). And there is no way in hell that NOS will ever be as good as or ever on the same level as a turbo is on.
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Ummmm...nitrous is pretty much a turbo in a bottle. All you're doing is adding an oxidizer...ie more air and with a wet kit, you're adding more fuel as well. In effect, it's not all that much different than a turbo...cept the nitrous comes out super cool and isn't under positive pressure. A turbo, supercharger or nitrous will not work right and cause damage to any motor that's not setup right. It really comes down to adding X amount of extra HP that really wasn't engineered to be there.
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Cory Simpson: You're just flat out wrong.
Nitrous Oxide isn't even combustable. Where the hell did you get your "facts" anyways?
And since when aren't turbos hard on engines? WTF? This must be why turbo FC motors last JUST as long as n/as... OH WAIT, they don't.
Jeez, you don't even make sense through half of your post. How the hell do you stop a turbo from spooling aside from the wastegate? at WOT if all the exhuaust is flowing through the turbo, there's no way in hell anything is stopping it, aside from a fistful of sand into the intake, and I doubt that anyone is going to do that, well, more than once, anyways
That said, The origional confused poster needs some real information.
1: Nitrous is NOT recommended for stock or near stock TIIs. It's too difficult to tune properly, and you'll QUICKLY outrun the stock turbo. Go to a local muffler shop, and get a nice open exhaust and make a boost controller, and you'll up your power just as much as a small nitrous setup for less money, and your car will be more reliable to boot.
Nitrous is NOT combustable, but it IS an oxydizer. When nitrous is heated (like when your car is in the compression stroke) it breaks apart into oxygen and nitrogen. Add fuel and you get more power from the oxygen, and the nitrogen helps to protect things when they get out of hand. It's one of the easiest, safest power adders, but it's still dangerous if tuned improperly.
Proper nitrous kits aren't cheap, either. A simple wet setup will set you back $600 or more, you realise that, right?
Nitrous Oxide isn't even combustable. Where the hell did you get your "facts" anyways?
And since when aren't turbos hard on engines? WTF? This must be why turbo FC motors last JUST as long as n/as... OH WAIT, they don't.
Jeez, you don't even make sense through half of your post. How the hell do you stop a turbo from spooling aside from the wastegate? at WOT if all the exhuaust is flowing through the turbo, there's no way in hell anything is stopping it, aside from a fistful of sand into the intake, and I doubt that anyone is going to do that, well, more than once, anyways
That said, The origional confused poster needs some real information.
1: Nitrous is NOT recommended for stock or near stock TIIs. It's too difficult to tune properly, and you'll QUICKLY outrun the stock turbo. Go to a local muffler shop, and get a nice open exhaust and make a boost controller, and you'll up your power just as much as a small nitrous setup for less money, and your car will be more reliable to boot.
Nitrous is NOT combustable, but it IS an oxydizer. When nitrous is heated (like when your car is in the compression stroke) it breaks apart into oxygen and nitrogen. Add fuel and you get more power from the oxygen, and the nitrogen helps to protect things when they get out of hand. It's one of the easiest, safest power adders, but it's still dangerous if tuned improperly.
Proper nitrous kits aren't cheap, either. A simple wet setup will set you back $600 or more, you realise that, right?
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Well, I stand corrected on the NO2 being flammable, but it was partually right seing as how N2O is very flammable when mixed with fuel due to the high ammounts of oxygen in N2O. And hey there is another way to stop a turbo from spooling it is called letting off the gas. And that is usually when you want to slow down, which is when you wouldn't want anymore boost. And other then that a blow off valve as I said before will release the exess pressure in the system that is unwanted.
And also if it is not dangerous to your engine than running your engine lean is good for it, huhhh. Humm no it's not, running Nitrous causes exess heat and causes your engine to run lean, unless you get the proper fuel air ratio, and from what I understand it is very hard on a rotary to run it lean. Or maybe you can correct me once more on that one. Hell just steer me staight.
And also if it is not dangerous to your engine than running your engine lean is good for it, huhhh. Humm no it's not, running Nitrous causes exess heat and causes your engine to run lean, unless you get the proper fuel air ratio, and from what I understand it is very hard on a rotary to run it lean. Or maybe you can correct me once more on that one. Hell just steer me staight.
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Ok so from what you guys are saying both nitrous and a turbo can be hard on the engine so why would you want to use both? The answere to this dudes questions is simple, dont use nitrous on a turbo car, Its really bad!
Unless you only want to drive it a few times and could give 2 ***** about the car...
Unless you only want to drive it a few times and could give 2 ***** about the car...