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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 04:28 AM
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projector lights?

So i want to upgrade my stock lighting to something more crisp and modern like hid's or projector lamps but from what i see true hid's are quite expensive. Does anyone have any thoughts on these?

http://store.everythingcarparts.com/...-p8238363.html

range and power probably aren't nearly as good as hid's but they seem like a nice upgrade.
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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Don't waste your money.
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 07:53 PM
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+1 halogens are the best by far compared to the cheap HID kits. thats if you have them aimed correctly.

i recommend hella headlights the sealed beam ones.

or if you want projectors
https://www.rx7club.com/fdnewbie-imports-172/gb-interest-fc-fb-bi-xenon-hid-projector-sakebomb-garage-882951/
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 12:05 AM
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whoa.... those lights cost almost as much as an engine swap
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 12:12 AM
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lol yea, its still cheaper compared to the oem HIDs on some cars. if i remember correctly its about 500 or so for an rx8 ballast and bulb. thats just one side btw
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 12:38 AM
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Take a look at my thread:

https://www.rx7club.com/interior-exterior-audio-26/diy-hid-retrofit-927786/

It's for a fd but the only thing that is different is the housing and maybe shroud if it doesn't fit. You would have to use a h4 conversion housing and maybe not do the sanding on the front and back. If i get my hands on some housings i can make a write up.
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 12:56 AM
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interesting, those patterns look pretty good. not all scattered and **** like some of the ebay ones.
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 12:59 AM
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interesting, those patterns look pretty good. not all scattered and **** like some of the ebay ones.
The ebay ones are not real projectors.
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 08:04 AM
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oh i know. i bought a set for like $5 a while back. its soo useless but perfect for modifying like what you did.
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 12:57 PM
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My buddies have 'big balla cars' that they did hid upgrades too, and when everything is initially installed theres not a big difference between cheap and expensive hid's (providing a good pattern), but a month down the road, all the guys with cheap ones had issues, were as my one friend that spent the money on a good kit hasn't had an issue yet.

My personal opinion would be to spend the money and get a good kit, and then make your own somehow lol. but I wouldn't trust a hid kit for less than $100 for sure! (my buddy paid about 400 a side for his kit which has been excellent)

PS- Although the bi-xenon isn't extremely necessary, it would be very valuable to have, the main point of high beams is to raise the projection of the lights. lo beams aim lower to the ground as to not blind traffic, whereas high beams raise their beam a bit to allow further distance, and of course are a bit brighter. If your like me and like to drive your car, and use it at night, a bi-xenon is the way to go.

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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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ive seen a fc in youtube with 2 headlights per side... where can i get those?
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 06:04 PM
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I like the looks of cheap headlights with yellow fog lights, the best headlight set up
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 10:42 PM
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so its either spend lots of money or don't get anything? lol
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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i bought my rx7 with 10000k hid projecters they look great but as far as seeing good and far id do alot better with a couple flash lights anbd they are only single stage which means no low beam
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 09:23 AM
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The SakeBombGarage ones are drop in bixenon models for fc that aren't a rebase. For $850 , they are a steal.
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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Not that I want to disagree with anything about the retro fits, but my daily driver (not an rx7) I bought the 10K bi hid kit (highs & lows) off ebay about a year and a half ago and I have never once had any issues with them, nor have I been flashed for high beams. Original bulbs and ballasts. I drive 4 hrs round trip to work and back with these at night (I work 3rd shift) 5 days a week, they are on a lot. I think those that get flashed have tried to self align the beam, then blinds drivers.
I like them, been very dependable, and I will say that they give a clearer, cleaner light over the stock "yellow" looking halogens. If halogens are better like some say, how come most car makers are using hids now? Theres are more pricey from the car makers/dealers, but what dealer parts aren't?
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by fc323
ive seen a fc in youtube with 2 headlights per side... where can i get those?
that was either the eastbear kit or the kit I made a while back.
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by VermontRX7
Not that I want to disagree with anything about the retro fits, but my daily driver (not an rx7) I bought the 10K bi hid kit (highs & lows) off ebay about a year and a half ago and I have never once had any issues with them, nor have I been flashed for high beams. Original bulbs and ballasts. I drive 4 hrs round trip to work and back with these at night (I work 3rd shift) 5 days a week, they are on a lot. I think those that get flashed have tried to self align the beam, then blinds drivers.
I like them, been very dependable, and I will say that they give a clearer, cleaner light over the stock "yellow" looking halogens. If halogens are better like some say, how come most car makers are using hids now? Theres are more pricey from the car makers/dealers, but what dealer parts aren't?
Halogens are better looking in reflector housings than hid in them. You probably don't get flashed because you aimed them low which then ruins the ability to see far away.
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by VermontRX7
Not that I want to disagree with anything about the retro fits, but my daily driver (not an rx7) I bought the 10K bi hid kit (highs & lows) off ebay about a year and a half ago and I have never once had any issues with them, nor have I been flashed for high beams. Original bulbs and ballasts. I drive 4 hrs round trip to work and back with these at night (I work 3rd shift) 5 days a week, they are on a lot. I think those that get flashed have tried to self align the beam, then blinds drivers.
I like them, been very dependable, and I will say that they give a clearer, cleaner light over the stock "yellow" looking halogens. If halogens are better like some say, how come most car makers are using hids now? Theres are more pricey from the car makers/dealers, but what dealer parts aren't?
Halogens are better looking in reflector housings than hid in them. You probably don't get flashed because you aimed them low which then ruins the ability to see far away. Also to top it off you are running 10k bulbs I bet if you run a set of silverstars and aim them correctly they would be far better than what you have.
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Originally Posted by VermontRX7
Not that I want to disagree with anything about the retro fits, but my daily driver (not an rx7) I bought the 10K bi hid kit (highs & lows) off ebay about a year and a half ago and I have never once had any issues with them, nor have I been flashed for high beams. Original bulbs and ballasts. I drive 4 hrs round trip to work and back with these at night (I work 3rd shift) 5 days a week, they are on a lot. I think those that get flashed have tried to self align the beam, then blinds drivers.
I like them, been very dependable, and I will say that they give a clearer, cleaner light over the stock "yellow" looking halogens. If halogens are better like some say, how come most car makers are using hids now? Theres are more pricey from the car makers/dealers, but what dealer parts aren't?
And they probably have the typical cheap HID into halogen housing glare which looks like crap (by that I mean the entire housing is lit up like the fourth of july). Just my .02 cents.

They really need to give a fix a ticket to people who try to pull off this crap, it's hard enough driving at night I don't need some a-hole lighting up my rearview mirror or blinding me when I drive at night.
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I actually run a 9003 HID kit in my Spectra. My kit though, actually has it's own D2R style shield that the bulb goes in, plus the shield of the factory headlight. Cutoff of these isn't as bad as I thought it would be honestly. It's by no means comparible to a true projector cutoff, but for a halogen housing it's quite good. Mine are 5000K so they more or less look just like any other D2R HID system. The light pattern is pretty fare, you still get the warm and cold line spots. I never usually get hi-beamed unless I dont turn my fogs off in time. They also have HIDs in them but they aren't shielded so they do have a nasty glare. I only use them on back roads with no other drivers. I'm confident that I could use the same kit in the RX-7 with a good set of Hella housings and not have any glare. But if I had the dough for the Sakebomb lights, I'd do it in a heart beat. No comparison to the true Bi-Xenon projectors
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Originally Posted by need-a-t2
that was either the eastbear kit or the kit I made a while back.
where can i get them?
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where can i get them?
you'll have to get a set used.
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Originally Posted by turboIIrotary
Take a look at my thread:

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=927786

It's for a fd but the only thing that is different is the housing and maybe shroud if it doesn't fit. You would have to use a h4 conversion housing and maybe not do the sanding on the front and back. If i get my hands on some housings i can make a write up.
i like this writup alot, upgrading a cheap hid kit sounds like the best way without breaking the bank. im sure the sakebombs are great but 800 dollars? that's coilover money lol.

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