For the price spent on converting a NA to t2 why not go with a turbo kit?
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For the price spent on converting a NA to t2 why not go with a turbo kit?
i dont understand the logic behind converting it to something stock which isnt really fast i can easily just get a turbonetics turbo get a custom kit. which eventully all of u would want to do is get a bigger turbo the tranny and drive train can be pulled from a t2 and of course i would be a bit over the cost of the conversion but still i would whoop any one who had done the t2's converstions *** if i set up the turbo right.
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It would be alot over cost. you would have to buy so much more stuff to do that.
The turbo kit alone would run you prolly 2k
fuel pump
injectors
ecu
some form of fuel management
plus the tranny and drivetrain
oh yeah and labor you are looking at 4-5k easy.
A turbo conversion is around 1,500-2,000 add 3k in mods to that and it would "whoop" the turbo kit car's ***.
The turbo kit alone would run you prolly 2k
fuel pump
injectors
ecu
some form of fuel management
plus the tranny and drivetrain
oh yeah and labor you are looking at 4-5k easy.
A turbo conversion is around 1,500-2,000 add 3k in mods to that and it would "whoop" the turbo kit car's ***.
dude you have to get a trans, driveshaft, clutch, and rear end that will support the new powerplant that you have under the hood. THAT is why people dont just go buy a turbo kit.
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Re: For the price spent on converting a NA to t2 why not go with a turbo kit?
Originally posted by SlayerwithaFC3S
i dont understand the logic behind converting it to something stock which isnt really fast i can easily just get a turbonetics turbo get a custom kit. which eventully all of u would want to do is get a bigger turbo the tranny and drive train can be pulled from a t2 and of course i would be a bit over the cost of the conversion but still i would whoop any one who had done the t2's converstions *** if i set up the turbo right.
i dont understand the logic behind converting it to something stock which isnt really fast i can easily just get a turbonetics turbo get a custom kit. which eventully all of u would want to do is get a bigger turbo the tranny and drive train can be pulled from a t2 and of course i would be a bit over the cost of the conversion but still i would whoop any one who had done the t2's converstions *** if i set up the turbo right.
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FYI:
S5 Turbo: 9.0:1 compression
S4 N/A: 9.4:1 compression
It's not going to make THAT much of a difference if you know what you are doing. You can boost a high compression motor just as easily as a low, you just dont NEED as much boost to make it go as fast.
To say a N/A engine will pop just because you add on a turbo is ignorant.
S5 Turbo: 9.0:1 compression
S4 N/A: 9.4:1 compression
It's not going to make THAT much of a difference if you know what you are doing. You can boost a high compression motor just as easily as a low, you just dont NEED as much boost to make it go as fast.
To say a N/A engine will pop just because you add on a turbo is ignorant.
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Originally posted by 88 SE
FYI:
S5 Turbo: 9.0:1 compression
S4 N/A: 9.4:1 compression
It's not going to make THAT much of a difference if you know what you are doing. You can boost a high compression motor just as easily as a low, you just dont NEED as much boost to make it go as fast.
To say a N/A engine will pop just because you add on a turbo is ignorant.
FYI:
S5 Turbo: 9.0:1 compression
S4 N/A: 9.4:1 compression
It's not going to make THAT much of a difference if you know what you are doing. You can boost a high compression motor just as easily as a low, you just dont NEED as much boost to make it go as fast.
To say a N/A engine will pop just because you add on a turbo is ignorant.
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Originally posted by Ryde _Or_Die
Oh I know that. I am saying that once it does its the same. Plus it more than likely will with an NA engine with a good amount of miles and putting as large of stress as a large turbo on it, it will go fairly soon.
Oh I know that. I am saying that once it does its the same. Plus it more than likely will with an NA engine with a good amount of miles and putting as large of stress as a large turbo on it, it will go fairly soon.
But you know what they say, it takes money to go fast. No way around that
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Originally posted by Project84
Some people like doing their own work and get just as much satisfaction out of building their project as they do driving it.
Some people like doing their own work and get just as much satisfaction out of building their project as they do driving it.
If you're gonna do the swap you really need to be this way. 
I did it, because my old motor had to many miles on it too be boosting it, and it was high compression, which makes it way way harder to run high boost, thats why no one boosts n/as.
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Originally posted by RX7withNitrous
A turbo conversion is around 1,500-2,000 add 3k in mods to that and it would "whoop" the turbo kit car's ***.
A turbo conversion is around 1,500-2,000 add 3k in mods to that and it would "whoop" the turbo kit car's ***.
Well all you have to do is crank up the boost on a T2 or T2 swapped car to beat a boosted N/A. Aaron how is your car doing anyhow? Have you been able to get out to a track yet?
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My car's fine, save for the fried clutch. She's in the garage for the winter right now, and this week I'm going to start on replacing the clutch. At the same time, the tranny is going to be rebuilt (noisy bearings).
I was at the track several times this summer, but since the ehxaust clogged, the numbers are less then spectacular. Next spring I'll post some timeslips after the full 3" is installed.
I was at the track several times this summer, but since the ehxaust clogged, the numbers are less then spectacular. Next spring I'll post some timeslips after the full 3" is installed.
Originally posted by Ryde _Or_Die
What happens when that boosted N/A cranks the boost up too?
What happens when that boosted N/A cranks the boost up too?
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From: COLORADO
I think what Arron did to his N/A is great in all, but I would put my slightly modded T2 up against his car any day of the week, reliabilty and perforamce. I just don't think that it is puttin down as much HP as people think,
