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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 10:03 PM
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Pressure sensor disconnect or not?

What would happen if I disconnect the air pressure sensor? Would that cause my secondaries not to work?
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 10:43 PM
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I mean just the vaccum line not the plug....
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 10:47 PM
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I have heard that bad things will come, From what i have heard, there was no real understanding of this, or if the ecu pulled codes from it some or all of the time, but i dont think that it is a good thing to do.

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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 10:49 PM
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air pressure sensor as in the MAP sensor?
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 10:52 PM
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Re: Pressure sensor disconnect or not?

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What would happen if I disconnect the air pressure sensor? Would that cause my secondaries not to work?
If you have a s4 then the 6-ports run off exhaust presssure (which I'm sure you already know), if you disconnect the vacuum like going from the cat to the ports, then you loose your 6-ports. On a s-5 there are run off the air pump.
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 10:53 PM
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the pressure sensor acts like a map sensor...your car will run but not very good and youll get some seriously shitty gas mileage.... that is a line you need to keep on
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by Spool Up
air pressure sensor as in the MAP sensor?
MAP sensor? 2nd gens use Air flow meters not MAP sensors as far as I know...
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 10:58 PM
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Mine is an 87 auto ecu n/a BUT... Turbo, 91 TII intake manifold and side housings. I just want to make sure those secondaries come online all the time, I got 550cc primaries and 720 Secondaries, the car starts fine and runs fine I just wanna make sure those secondaries will come online under load... Remember I am talking about pressure sensor not boost sensor my car was n/a.
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 12:11 AM
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If you disconnect the vacuum tube, the secondaries will come on at around 3800 rpm each and every time you hit 3800 rpm.

If the vac line is connected to the pressure sensor, then the secondaries may/may not come on when you hit 3800 rpm. If your car is under a load, they will come on at 3800rpm. If you are pressing on the pedal and accelerating at a moderater pace, then they may never come on line. I've driven 80 plus mph without them coming online(no load).

You should not run with the line off the sensor. It screws up the ECU's maps. As in fuel injection timing. See the 89 manual, fuel section, RELATIONSHIP CHART.

Also take the above into consideration when you pour a bottle of fuel injection cleaner in the car. Great for primary injectors. Wishy washy for secondaries, unless you continuously stay hard on the accelerator above 3800 rpm (where they work). Not ***** footing above 3800, but hard on it. As soon as you stabalize the throttle above 3800, they will probably shut down. Get the picture????

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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 03:28 AM
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Re: Pressure sensor disconnect or not?

Originally posted by Angel Guard Racing Team
What would happen if I disconnect the air pressure sensor? Would that cause my secondaries not to work?
Disconnect the vac line or the electrical plug? If you disconnect the vac line the ECU will see atmospheric pressure all the time. If you disconnect the plug the ECU reads an error and defaults to a 96mmHg (3.8inHg) vacuum reading. Either way they'll come on above 3800rpm regardless of actual load as Hailers said. Plus it'll definitely screw with the ignition timing.

The question is why? There aren't any benefits to doing this, only downsides.
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 01:36 PM
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I just want them to come online each and every time, remember I am running a turbo on n/a ecu.
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 05:51 PM
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Read page 4


http://www.ethanolrfa.org/pdf/Gasoline.pdf
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 06:12 PM
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how do you know when your secondaires are comin online?
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 06:38 PM
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Trust me, your secondaries are coming online as soon as you bring the car out of vacuum (assuming RPM>3800).

how do you know when your secondaires are comin online?
They come on at 3800 RPM if the engine is under load. No, they don't usually malfunction. Yours are working.
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 07:33 PM
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What exactly on that index on page 4 you want us to see?
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 11:20 AM
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I ran my '86 N/A for about a week with the Vac line disconnected (looking for a problem). It ran rich and therefore had worse gas milage. Other than that it seemed just fine.
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 11:36 AM
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Mine is lean like a mf!!!! I will be einstalling walbro today...
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 12:33 AM
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Heads up on what NZ said about the IGNITION timing and the boost/pressure sensor, please.

That said, I've put fuel injector cleaner in the gas tank, pulled the vac line, and driven at hwy speeds just to make sure the fuel injector cleaner was actually passing thru the secondaries, and doing some good. Sounds a bit goofy, but it just does not make any sense to me, to put fuel injector cleaner in the tank with everything connected up, because the secondarys only open or inject under load over approx 3800. If done that way, only the primary injectors are getting the benifit of the cleaner. Yeah, I know it sounds goofy and extreme.

Side note: I have no idea why my fingers wrote *moderater*, instead of moderate, in my earlier post. My spelling shore ain't what it should be.
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