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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 04:31 PM
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oh and schaft I do daily driving with this car, not a race car. so i havent heard anything about how it will effect when racing.
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 04:35 PM
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why dont you clean it first and take it from there
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 04:39 PM
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My gtu had the omp blocked off when I bought it and I've been eyeballing the amount of premix on each fill up and after 2 years I've had no problem so for a dd other then makig sure u remeber to do it you should be fine.
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 04:43 PM
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Same thing for racing
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 06:07 PM
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If the mop is covered in oil/greese then maybe your front cover is leaking onto the mop.
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 06:14 PM
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oohhh good idea mrgoodnight. Do you know how i would go about fixing that if it so? a gasket and torque it down properly? I am going to clean and inspect asap.
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 07:59 PM
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I think you people need to read more...


Here it is
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=887275
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 08:35 PM
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I've read that thread, and decided not to premix but want to mod the mop to accept 2 stroke oil from an external container.
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 10:13 PM
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yeah I think that sounds like a good idea too. I wonder if its simpler then removing the pump. I am going to search for info on it. that thread pretty much sells the premix idea. That rotor was disgusting!
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 10:21 PM
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https://www.rx7club.com/rotary-car-performance-77/diy-2-stroke-mop-write-up-pics-372329/
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 06:00 PM
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Removed OMP.....living with it.........inconvinient. I hear there is a feed can system out there.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 09:09 PM
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Issue with the injection/feed through the mop is ideally you want it to adjust flow by throttle. Simply feeding via gravity results in heavy flow during stop and go driving.
I have it feeding via throttle linkage but it was a lot of research and some custom pieces.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 09:57 PM
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why premixing is better...

heres the motherthread

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ight=premixing

Originally Posted by Karack
since i have the link to the picture may as well..



see that wear line in the middle? that is your lubrication tract from the OMP which mazda designed. now take the renesis which moved the single injector to 2 in the housing at the edges of the seal where you see the chrome wearing at the edges. guess what? the seal started to wear more again in the center and warp due to friction. then mazda made the renesis with 3 oil injectors in the rotor housing to essentially do a similar job of premixing to maximize affected lubricated areas.

premixing is superior no matter how you feel about it. premixing has been known to improve engine life and reduce wear by up to 30% or MORE while reducing chatter of the seals which can also kill the housings(notice the chatter in the picture as well? this was not even an abused high RPM engine).

problem with 2 stroke oil through the OMP pump is the lubrication is still isolated to certain areas of the motor. premixing fuel gets to all points of friction inside the combustion chamber.

so feel free to do whatever you want.

but keep in mind, mazda made the oil metering system just to conform to the pure FACT that not everyone is willing to premix oil and fuel.

jesus, we just had this argument on the 8 club...

this all has been thoroughly proven by your friendly rotary specialty rebuilders.

on top of that, premixing in rotaries has been around for as long as these motors have existed and still remains today. perhaps some things get redesigned and better with age, premixing remains.
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 06:13 AM
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Most of these engines blow for reasons other then oiling, I agree it adds life to the engine but a properly maintained rotary can go over 200k no problem. **** take apart a old pistons motor and it has wear as well, I would like to think that this would stop the wear process but let's get real and face the reality of what causes these engines to require rebuilds.
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 07:54 AM
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Exactly premixing may be better, but nobody should be crucified for not wanting to do it. Mazda's oiling system is not the reason for the vast majority of rebuilds.
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 09:21 AM
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and after 20 years and 100k+ miles NOW you want to start?
poor maintenance and over heating is usually what causes most failures, get into turbo engines and its poor set up and tuning

the other thing to remember with injecting 2 stroke oil is its DESIGNED to mix with fuel where as motor oil does not mix as well
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 02:53 PM
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Issue with the injection/feed through the mop is ideally you want it to adjust flow by throttle. Simply feeding via gravity results in heavy flow during stop and go driving.
I have it feeding via throttle linkage but it was a lot of research and some custom pieces.

hey rob xx 7 do you have a write up on your setup? if so i would be interested in reading over it. Also is there a concern when the car is at idle it may not be getting enough oil since it is throttle fed? or would it not put in as much oil as the gravity fed while at throttle? So far i have found three ways to use 2 cycle oil. premix in the tank. gravity fed. and what you just described. correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 03:00 PM
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Oh and my engine is getting a rebuild because the oil control rings are shot and its having severe overheating issues which i will find out the problem(s) when i pull her apart.
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 07:56 PM
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Its hard to decide , I may be buying an $1200 vert S5 FC with possibly this problem, atleast wht the guy told me what it was doing. Been reading a lot of threads this past week from CEL codes to replacing EOMP to fix limp mode. Premix seems to be my favorite choice . But did find a local guy selling the EOMP for 100 bucks. If I do get it , ima try and tackle the replacement myself which I heard it a poot to do.
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