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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 11:58 PM
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just keep driving it till it floods itself... thats ur anti theft
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT
I'll be rocking this little guy to the battery solenoid. No key means no battery power... except the memory circuits that are hard-wired


I use this on my boat though. No key mean no power to the engine but the memory circuits and the bilge pumps are hardwired through the breakers...


Just make sure you protect that stuff with breakers.
That looks so easy to hot wire. Piece of wire, wrap around both ends. Done. Even thin wire will work for a while. I mean, even if u melt the insulation, so what? Worry about removing the device after car is stolen.

Just pull the EGI fuse. Car won't start without it, as you suspected. You can also pull the engine fuse under the driver's side dash (not under the hood). I wouldn't carry it with you, though. I mean, you could lose it. The thief could just use another fuse or a piece of wire if he found out what's wrong. So you might as well hide it in your car in a nice place like the spare fuse holder.

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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 01:22 AM
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ok i swear to god about this one.....my autoshop teacher told me about this one....he loves messing with people....

anyways.....once he rigged his old car so that the battery somehow chareged the whole car with an electric current...wich was controlled by a remote toggle switch...like keyless entry.....press the butten electricity is moved thrughout all the metal in the car.....

best and cheapest one ive herd of....will work good since the majority of our cars are metal (bad if u modified the car)

just dont forget u did that...it might hurt
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 01:58 AM
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Quick Release Steering wheel....
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 02:13 AM
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wow i'm amazed we didn't think of that till now. good one
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by helghast7
ok i swear to god about this one.....my autoshop teacher told me about this one....he loves messing with people....

anyways.....once he rigged his old car so that the battery somehow chareged the whole car with an electric current...wich was controlled by a remote toggle switch...like keyless entry.....press the butten electricity is moved thrughout all the metal in the car.....

best and cheapest one ive herd of....will work good since the majority of our cars are metal (bad if u modified the car)

just dont forget u did that...it might hurt
lol who is this kid ^ I guess his auto shop teacher didn't know anything of electricity... or really think about how well the paint conducts electricity at 12 volts. lol thats funny to me. This sounds straight out of a movie! Oh wait it is!
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 02:55 AM
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lol who is this kid ^ I guess his auto shop teacher didn't know anything of electricity... or really think about how well the paint conducts electricity at 12 volts. lol thats funny to me. This sounds straight out of a movie! Oh wait it is!
you could put a nice copper place on the inside of the door handle... when they go to fiddle with the door handle they get a nice zing.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 03:18 AM
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I put a radio activated remote starter switch underneath my passenger seat with the antenna coming up and tracing the chair rail... The remote is on my key chain... When I was living in a pretty bad part of town I used to keep a mini ratchet in my glove box and remove my shifter completely from the tranny and park in such a way as to be really difficult to tow... I also wielded a plate that says "property of Daniel L. Blakley", my cars VIN, and a sticker with a notary publics signature saying that this plate was put in my actual car with that actual VIN on such and such date INSIDE a part of the frame (not saying where)... I did that cause there were some horror stories around where I was living at the time that peoples cars were getting stolen by being towed and then repainted stripped of the VIN etc and people were having trouble with the law getting them back insurance settlements etc... I don't know if the notary part helps but my friend is a notary so i did it figuring it couldn't hurt... and there is no way you would find that plate if you didn't know where is was... I also got a neat little thing a while ago but haven't had time to put it in yet... its a little box about 3 inches by 2inches by 1 inch that you attach to your car and you program it to have an email address via blue tooth then every time it goes through a wireless zone it checks the email for a message with the flagged text and if it finds it it emails the email address you told it you have its GPS location, I got it for $150 from a friend and its seems kinda neat but it would such if wherever they park it they either don't have wireless or it can't get GPS reception... I got it cause my city is going wireless soon and in Florida its hard to find a place where GPS is not getting reception (few basements, no mountains)... I know I'm pretty paranoid, I sleep with a .30-06 behind my headboard too...
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 03:51 AM
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install a large mean canine
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 03:57 AM
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my old shop teacher lleft a cougar in his car that was always hungry, yet liked him,
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 04:03 AM
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my old shop teacher lleft a cougar in his car that was always hungry, yet liked him,
best idea ever...
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 04:13 AM
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my fuel pump(s), main power and msd are all on their own unlabeled switch and all are in different spots. i even reused a couple stock switches in their factory spots as on/off signal for the ignition, just to make sure that no one can drive off w/ my car. not to mention even if they do find all the switches they'll be cranking it over for a while before they even get it started, plus they better know how to babysit a chokeless carb on cold start otherwise it'll just die again and again till its flooded . but car thiefs are only half of the worry for me, im actually more paranoid that anyone w/ a small set of tools and bad intentions could steal my parts. all i need is a 12mm socket and 5 minutes to get my whole carb/intake setup off
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 05:51 AM
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"Bah all the above listed are way too complicated.. I don't want to go out of my way to install something when I could just get a car alarm.

I think I'll just stick with the EGI fuse trick, hopefully if anyone tries to steal my car they'll only crank and it won't start, so they'll give up and try another one. Are there any better fuses I could pull?"


or they'll hold it untill they fry the starter....
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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I don't want to give away all my tricks...

Trip the main breaker to shut off the battery. Once the interior parts are in place, they would never find the switch.

Pull the EGI fuse.

Disconnect main relay.

Slide the CAS connector out every so slightly.

Pull connector at stock fuel pump relay.

And there are other more creative solutions. For example, the Microtech allows the ECU to be "locked" so a PIN number must be entered to start the car.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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Truly the easiest way to do this is with a switch for your fuel pump. hide it in the compartments behind the front seats.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by flashburn
Truly the easiest way to do this is with a switch for your fuel pump. hide it in the compartments behind the front seats.
What if they find it when they're looking for things to steal? I say 100 dummy switches all over the interior to f' witht he thief's head .
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by flashburn
Truly the easiest way to do this is with a switch for your fuel pump. hide it in the compartments behind the front seats.
Agree, add to that a separate one for the ign; and you are good to go (BTW - Most alarms provide for one of them, plus extra channels for other options that can be used for a second cut off switch; plus you get the siren\flashing lights.


BTW - 100% agree with what TitaniumTT
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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^^^ Thanks FWIW I also have a removable steering wheel but that's because of the seats... although I watched a buddy do donuts in the parking lot at the shop while trying to blow the motor in his ole Monte after he stripped all useable parts including the steering wheel, he used a set of vice-grips

Eric - the point of a switch like that is just what it is meant to be - a deterrent. I could sit on my car with a loaded 12 Ga and if they want it bad enough... they'll figure out a way to get it. That key to a solenoid is pretty neat I think. If a thief was trying to steal a car and knew enough about the wiring to try to hotwire it, after a few failed attempts I think they would just move on. Something like that is out of the ordinary. As for that keyed switch itself - well I had it mounted between the seats in the deck. In order to bypass it like you said, one of the bins would have to be removed to gain access. Is someone going to take the time to do this? If they want the car bad enough maybe, but I think it's a decent deterrant.

I believe that most stolen cars are stolen with a screwdriver and a hammer, maybe they take the time to try to finesse the ignition switch. But after ******* around in a car for over a minute, I would think they would move on. To steal my car you would need a tool set and about 15 minuites. Who is going to sit there and tear the interior apart?

My old old OLD boat - some 12 years ago, I got out to her and the cover was off, the cover for the engine was off, the control box was smashed open (to gain access to the wires) basically they had access to the boat for who knows how long, on a mooring, in the pitch black, had all the time in the world and couldn't figure it out. Of course I still think they were suspectful retarded 16 yo's (& I know exactely who) but still, they couldn't figure it out and battery switches are the norm on boats.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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Quick release steering wheel can help.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DriftTrix
lol who is this kid ^ I guess his auto shop teacher didn't know anything of electricity... or really think about how well the paint conducts electricity at 12 volts. lol thats funny to me. This sounds straight out of a movie! Oh wait it is!
ha ha ha...wait who are you?? who said his car had paint on it? and who said he didnt mod his car to make it work correctly?...and wait who said volts do any damage to you? could have swarn it was amps
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by flashburn
Truly the easiest way to do this is with a switch for your fuel pump. hide it in the compartments behind the front seats.
That's one of the first places I'd look...
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 01:54 AM
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Best anti-theft ever IMO is a standard alarm with no siren + pager alarm with good range + baseball bat.
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
That's one of the first places I'd look...
Well, I would truly be shocked if a rotary owner were to actually steal another one's car... Although I suppose you could say that you loved rotaries so much that you had to steal it and that you couldn't live without one.

The standard thief probably won't know much about FCs, I expect they would break into your car and upon failing to start it... he or she would take anything that seemed valuable and try to steal another car.
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 03:26 AM
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Well, I would truly be shocked if a rotary owner were to actually steal another one's car...
Let us know when you come back from your perfect, happy little world...
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 04:07 AM
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eh for school I just take my whole microtech ecu with me lol
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