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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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pics - WTF - $10K convertible NA auto on ebay

They're bidding $10K for an automatic

And the reserve isn't even met. Plus the ad's pictures suck.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6327

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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 03:42 PM
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It has really low mileage and the pics look good to me. That interior is showroom condition. I would never pay 14,500 though. Maybe 8-9k.
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 03:46 PM
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Mabey the convertible part is what's setting this auction way over.

And the low miles S5 TII's struggle to get $8K.

And then this NOPI winning 3rd gen can't get $12K

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6327

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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 03:53 PM
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I think maybe a untouched low mile vert could be looked at as a collector car. Believe what you may but that car if kept as is will be worth some dough one day.
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 03:56 PM
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someone's been watching the speed channel auctions too much
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 03:59 PM
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I watched a little bit of that 6 hour auction this wekend, but all of the cars I saw were boring. But it did show me that any car with a good story behind it will eventually be worth a lot of money. I did see a modded vet that got more money than an identical car that was unmodded, which surprised me.
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 04:12 PM
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you missed the comments on Friday.

Someone e-mailed a question "when will older japanese sports cars be featured in these auctions"

And then they proceded to bad mouth japanese cars. That's right guys, **** off the main people who watch your auctions. Good idea.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 11:46 AM
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Is it just me or does anyone else feel that verts aren't as "rare" or "hard to find" as some sellers make them out to be? If you check out autotrader about half the 2nd gens on there are verts. Most are autos a few with mans, but a good number of them are still available. I just don't see why some people feel that these cars are so rare. Now a GTUs is rare, but that's a different story all together.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by Phu5ion
Is it just me or does anyone else feel that verts aren't as "rare" or "hard to find" as some sellers make them out to be? If you check out autotrader about half the 2nd gens on there are verts. Most are autos a few with mans, but a good number of them are still available. I just don't see why some people feel that these cars are so rare. Now a GTUs is rare, but that's a different story all together.
usually a vert will gather more money than a coupe. A big part of this is because a vert is rarer. however, the jag XKE was more common in convertable and more rare is coupes. THe coupes go for as much as the verts if not more.. its because theyre rare
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 12:05 PM
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They may not be as rare as what most believe, but still rare enough to be valuable one day. The vert will be seen as the only convertible version of the historic legacy of the RX-7. Most people fail to realize what impact the Rotary has had on motorsports. And most don't even bother to think about the impact the rotary has had on technology and engines on a whole. Can anyone name another engine besides the conventional piston engine? The vert or any of the other rotary powered cars will not be worth anything for a good many years; but their time will come. 50 years from now people will look back at these cars and not only see production numbers as simple figures but more of a breakthrough and a triumph over conventional thinking. These cars and their funny motors are yet to be embraced by the automotive industry and engineers for their true value as cars and innovation.

And I do have a vert, but it is worth nothing and never will be.

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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 12:05 PM
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Re: pics - WTF - $10K convertible NA auto on ebay

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They're bidding $10K for an automatic
... and people have paid more than $5 billion into the Nigerian scam. What can I say?
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 12:05 PM
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Why buy a convertable for $10k get a F'n 3rd gen.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 02:52 PM
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because most don't have time nor the money to repair a 3rd gen.. and a 'vert doesn't have that hassle. That and I wouldn't pay $10 k for a vert... even it if was/is in perfect condition.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 03:35 PM
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From: Los Angeles!!!! Lovely.
hey, dudes back then paid a hefty 25,000 (depending on mark up) for the vert!
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by Rotary Dawg
hey, dudes back then paid a hefty 25,000 (depending on mark up) for the vert!
Yes, but it was new and had a warranty. It would suck to pay $10K for a vert just to have the engine blow in a month, the transmission fail the next month, the front wheel bearings wear out the next, etc. I paid over $17K for my 88 SE, and it was worth every penny.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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If you check Blue book generally convertible resale is higher than all others-they cost more to begin with. There is also the traditional allure of a convertible compared to a closed car. All 2nd and 3rd gen RX7-s are rare when you look at the numbers. Here's the 2nd gen stats straight from Mazda, try the attachment if garbled, overall 11% of 2nd gens were verts :
% of all total RX-7 Convertible % of
Model year RX-7 convertibles RX-7 convertibles model year sales RX-7 model year sales
1986 0 0% 56,243 0%
1987 0 0% 38,345 0%
1988* 7,002 40% 27,814 25%
1989 4,032 23% 16,249 25%
1990 3,535 20% 9,743 36%
1991 3,151 18% 6,986 45%
totals 17,720 100% 155,380 11%

*837 of these were built in calendar year 1987

List Price:
1988* $21,550
1989 $25,950
1990 $26,530
1991 $27,715
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by pmr2000
If you check Blue book generally convertible resale is higher than all others-they cost more to begin with.
I agree, and the traditional allure and good resale value is calculated into the Blue Book value. However, the Blue Book value on that car in Excellent condition is $5,910, which is less than half of what they are asking for it. I could see maybe paying more for a car like this since it appears to be in good condition, but not that much. However, I do wish the seller good luck.

FYI, any ad with "RARE!" = Overpriced.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 05:46 PM
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heh i my opinion, the vert is also one of the few to have offerred a glass on the rear portion of the vert as compared to the plastic crap that even bmw was using. also remember that the rx-7 convertible is able to boast the ability to go TARGA or completely top down. the speaker system was also pretty impressive offering headrest speakers. soo there it is...a lot of little things that make the vert a bit more different than the average convertible and also a bit more expensive than a coupe. o.k. thats my 2 cents.

by the way i own a 90 vert with 42k original miles and mint condition interior. but i am going to remove the seat skins and customize them with a 2 tone skin pattern with possibly black and blue in the same factory patterns. dont hate me :P it is MY car hehehe

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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 09:44 PM
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Why buy a convertable for $10k get a F'n 3rd gen.

Because 3rd Gen's don't have a button you can push to make the top go down.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 09:50 PM
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Re: Why buy a convertable for $10k get a F'n 3rd gen.

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Because 3rd Gen's don't have a button you can push to make the top go down.
right on...Vert is awesome and rare
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 01:19 AM
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48 Olds Fastback

Did anyone see the 48 Olds in Fast & Furious?
That was my first car. I put a 54 Olds V8 4 barrell, headers, floor shifter, Merc Turnpike Cruser oval steering wheel...

Any one see an add for a red 61 MG A for $16,000? I sold mine for $140.

Please keep ripping the **** out of your 7, mine will be worth a lot some day! :P
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 01:36 AM
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Re: Why buy a convertable for $10k get a F'n 3rd gen.

Originally posted by HOZZMANRX7
Because 3rd Gen's don't have a button you can push to make the top go down.
well some one got the right idea



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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 03:45 AM
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as far as verts overpopulating the autotrader and such....its only a facade...there are alot of verts out there on the market..but it is the same cars week after week after week....these people have bought into the vert being rare and think they are gonna get shitloads of money..so they list their car, and continue to drive it and list it for years, until someone finally buys it.

its the same cars every week....not a rotating stock of verts. i bought my vert over a year ago and if i go to the same autotrader that i found mine on...half of the cars on there will be cars that i looked at way back then. so dont be fooled into thinking that theres a million of em out there, just a few.... that people want a million for!!

i think im gonna go list mine right now and ask 10,000 for it. whats it gonna hurt? other than making me look like an idiot...ill just list it for 20 years if thats what it takes.
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 07:51 AM
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The vert or any of the other rotary powered cars will not be worth anything for a good many years;
I disagree.
My guess is the RX-8 will re-spark interest in the rotary, and all our cars will be worth more.

So - if you'r looking to buy a 7, now is the time..
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