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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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I Removed my TB to do some injection work on the secondary injectors...I noticed that the screw in the PD was rattling around inside the plastic cap of the PD!!!I don't have another PD And from what I have been told You can do a mod with a banjo bolt..Is this safe? Will this mod screw up my car? I would much rather have my car die of injector failure than fire!! I own a 86 n/a fc
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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 09:17 PM
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Read the archives bro. You will find a thread pages long about this.

I do have the banjo bolt fix and it has been ok for a year now. But there are some theoretical drawbacks to this.
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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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Yeah, the Banjo bolt fix works just fine no problems here.
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 01:59 AM
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http://fc3spro.com/FTP/FC3SPro/FAQ/pd.htm


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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 05:22 AM
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I screwed It back In, put a dab of Silicone on It and have been alright for almost 3yrs now.
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 10:57 AM
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I took a banjo bolt from my 87 parts car and put it where the pd was...I have to pressurise the system and check it for leaks..It's raining today so I guess I'll get to it some other time this week.Like I said before I would rather have my emgine die from injector failure than fire!This whole problem reminds me of the 95 mercury mystake that would have engine fires due to the E-fan bearings freezing up..262,000 cars were affected.. ford did a recall.I love my 7 but I am so pissed off at mazda right now!Recall the ******* cars you money hungry corporate ********.This is the first time my 7 has been apart since it was built..Inother words the pd is almost 17 years old.I wonder what felix would think about his little cars catching fire?Both pd's on my 86 and 87 had the screw rattling around in the cap!My 86 daily driver has 155,652 miles on it,My 87 parts car had a rebuilt motor with 30,000 on it.So I do the pd mod on the 86 motor,it runs for another year or two then quits.Fine with me I'll just swap motors and keep right on rolling engine fire free with out my pd...Sorry for the spelling
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by Red 86 rx-7
but I am so pissed off at mazda right now!Recall the ******* cars you money hungry corporate ********.This is the first time my 7 has been apart since it was built..Inother words the pd is almost 17 years old.I wonder what felix would think about his little cars catching fire?Both pd's on my 86 and 87 had the screw rattling around in the cap!My 86 daily driver has 155,652 miles on it,My 87 parts car had a rebuilt motor with 30,000 on it.So I do the pd mod on the 86 motor,it runs for another year or two then quits.Fine with me I'll just swap motors and keep right on rolling engine fire free with out my pd...Sorry for the spelling
Tough for me to reply without flaming, but get a F%$#ing clue.

Its a $125 part that lasted 100,000+ miles without a problem and the same part is used in countless Hondas, Toyotas, and Mazdas. It is built by Nippondenso, probably the biggest parts manufacture in Japan. Its not a Mazda issue.

Who is more lame? The person too poor to fix their car right with the right with a brand new under $200 part???

Or the manufacture that used the part on a million cars without problems until they get so old that the part needs to be replaced???
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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Tough for me to reply without flaming, but get a F%$#ing clue.

Its a $125 part that lasted 100,000+ miles without a problem and the same part is used in countless Hondas, Toyotas, and Mazdas. It is built by Nippondenso, probably the biggest parts manufacture in Japan. Its not a Mazda issue.

Who is more lame? The person too poor to fix their car right with the right with a brand new under $200 part???

Or the manufacture that used the part on a million cars without problems until they get so old that the part needs to be replaced???
i agree with that. it is unfortunate that its in a place that causes fire....

mike
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 07:19 PM
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Hey, guys, remember the old days when your carb wouldn't last 100k? It would start leaking, but people wouldn't fix them cause the car still started and ran, then take the motor with it by washing the oil off the cylinder walls.

Yep, preventative maintanance.........
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 11:32 PM
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#1"to poor to fix their car right" Yeh I own a sports car with a one of a kind engine,**** is expensive!!Should have got a u-go!#2The pd problem is a mazda problem,Mazda used the part in their car,And placed that part in a really bad place!"caught with your pants down"If you fixed a friends car and put in a faulty part ,Or did a shoddy job,who is to blame?The parts manufacturer or you?I heard of rx-7's with 30,000miles going up in flames....Let's not forget the Chevy corvair,Ford Pinto,Ford pickup,Mercury mystake,Pontiac Fiero.Where is the PD located on the new RX-8? Get your lighters out boys it's time to flame this bastard...
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by Red 86 rx-7
#1"to poor to fix their car right" Yeh I own a sports car with a one of a kind engine,**** is expensive!!Should have got a u-go!#2The pd problem is a mazda problem,Mazda used the part in their car,And placed that part in a really bad place!"caught with your pants down"If you fixed a friends car and put in a faulty part ,Or did a shoddy job,who is to blame?The parts manufacturer or you?I heard of rx-7's with 30,000miles going up in flames....Let's not forget the Chevy corvair,Ford Pinto,Ford pickup,Mercury mystake,Pontiac Fiero.Where is the PD located on the new RX-8? Get your lighters out boys it's time to flame this bastard...
You won't find a FC that went up in flames because of a PD failure with less than 50K miles (or 10 years) on it. Maybe a fuel line leak on the FD (which did have recalls on them to fix fuel line and PD issues). But not a FC.

Your attitude suggests that perhaps another car would be better for you than a true sports car. Perhaps a Ford or GM would be a better choice since parts are cheap and plentyful. Of course I have seen GMs at 30K need new PDs and even motors and trannys as well, but perhaps that wouldn't be worth noting or requiring GM to replace them under a recall.

Any car with 100k miles on it will need work. The fact that a $125 part needs replacing at 100k miles means nothing. It could be just as easy a Alt or even brake shoes that cost that same $125. Or two tires need replacing, that would even cost more than a PD for decent replacements. Are you gonna say that Mazda should recall the car because it wears tires out and if you don't replace them the car will crash???

The PD failure is a very infequent problem. If the car is properly maintained it will never show up. Infact you are more likely to see a blown motor than a leaking PD in a junk yard. Based on that then maybe Mazda should just recall the engine.

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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 01:14 PM
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the rx8 pd is located in the same spot its always been in.
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