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Old 03-18-10, 03:19 PM
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opinions on upgrading fuel sytem on a stockish car

im sure this has been covered but i havent found a clear answer. so i got a 88turbo2 project, i got the UIM off and everything, found out it has a walbro 255 in it already and im debating on if i should go all out and get all SS lines, and AN fittings and everything and run the parallel setup, or if i should just find a stock pump and run it stock?

plans for the car: get it running(obviosly) not doing any crazy turbo, maybe s5 turbo ported in the future, but for now maybe run around 8-9lbs of boost( safely). not planing on running a standalone or anything like that soon at all...toooo much money

have also herd that some people say running rubber fuel line in a parallel setup would be okay for a stock form.. thoughts on that, i still would run a FPR( which i already have(aeromotive)) that would cut down the cost. but i really dont want to risk it if im only saving $100, when i could spend $100 more and have a really stout system

oh and mods on the car already... cone filter, and 3inch apexi turbo back..so yeah pretty stock right now

any thoughts/opinions would be great, i just dont want to spend $250 on SS fuel supplies then change my mind
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If you can't do a different tune (stock ECU) there really isn't a point. Usually people do the -AN and all that for more flow and bigger injectors. Taking the UIM off isn't that hard if you change your mind in the future.

As far as doing parallel, again I don't see the point. If it's stock, leave it stock. I'm not able to imagine a way in which doing parallel will mess anything up if you have full fuel pressure and proper FPR, but again what is the point?

I would just get nice fresh rubber lines (high pressure fuel hose from autozone) and clamps and clean what you can while you're in there. Don't go changing things for no reason.
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Originally Posted by NOPR
If you can't do a different tune (stock ECU) there really isn't a point. Usually people do the -AN and all that for more flow and bigger injectors. Taking the UIM off isn't that hard if you change your mind in the future.

As far as doing parallel, again I don't see the point. If it's stock, leave it stock. I'm not able to imagine a way in which doing parallel will mess anything up if you have full fuel pressure and proper FPR, but again what is the point?

I would just get nice fresh rubber lines (high pressure fuel hose from autozone) and clamps and clean what you can while you're in there. Don't go changing things for no reason.
yeah that is a good point, i also just found a different route other than ussing the SS braided line, jegs has a rubber fuel line system called push-loc, its basicly rubber fuel hose with a special type of lock connector end, the good part is the hose is very cheap and all the connectors are cheap as well, so i could set up a parallel system for about 150 instead of around 300, so i might do that route that way im still running a parallel system with some adjustments i can make
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save the $ change the fuel filter new fuel lines and drive the car. the stock 550s can support very decent power levels. upgrade the ecu rtek 1.5 for $100... parallel on a stock car wtf???
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Yeah, I don't really know where you're getting the idea of running a parallel setup on a lightly modded car from. If you want some room to grow, get an Rtek 2.X and 720 secondaries.
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Don't mess with what ain't broke. Especially if you're only running 8-9 pounds at most. In the future you may look into just upgrading injectors to support a hybrid turbo if you go that route but if you are planning on keeping it mostly stock, money is spent better elsewhere. I'd mostly focus on just making sure things like vac lines and such are in good condition and that all the stock components are working fine. Basically just do a very thorough tune up.
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I was exactly where you are 3 years ago, I had all these plans for a project car I paid too much for and dropped 300 into an over engineered fuel system. (btw working w/ braided line is a pain in the *** and should be avoided unless absolutely neccessary)

Long story short I ended up selling the car long before I came close to using the capacity of the system and didn't get nearly what it was worth (in parts at least)

Now I'm making more power on a refreshed stock system and spending money where it needs to be spent.

BTW a 255lph pump is way to much for a stock system, it will make you run rich, and can contribute to hot start problems, you'd be better off w/ a stock, or maybe an FD pump.
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Originally Posted by sharingan 19
I was exactly where you are 3 years ago, I had all these plans for a project car I paid too much for and dropped 300 into an over engineered fuel system. (btw working w/ braided line is a pain in the *** and should be avoided unless absolutely neccessary)

Long story short I ended up selling the car long before I came close to using the capacity of the system and didn't get nearly what it was worth (in parts at least)

Now I'm making more power on a refreshed stock system and spending money where it needs to be spent.

BTW a 255lph pump is way to much for a stock system, it will make you run rich, and can contribute to hot start problems, you'd be better off w/ a stock, or maybe an FD pump.
okay i have decided to just keep the stock fuel system, question about the fd pump, is it going to be in the same stock level as in its not going to be pushing to much fuel like the 255 will be?
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An FD pump won't overrun the stock FPR like a walbro. Idle fuel pressure in my car is almost exactly the stock spec with an NA or TII pump.
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excessively overbuild the fuel system now and you will wish you had that money later
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Originally Posted by arghx
excessively overbuild the fuel system now and you will wish you had that money later
.I totally agree with ARGHX-Dude!
I spent like 400 bucks just to make the Fuel system look Blingie..What a freakin waste of Good money.
My car is good for about 350 hp,but I could have used that 400 bucks for something else.really.I could have got the same operational fuel system for Peanuts If I used Hi pressure EFI hose and some clamps.
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for what'd cost, I agree with everyone else, get an Rtek 2.x.
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