OBX Helical LSD in an S5 NA?
05-01-06, 04:48 PM
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OBX Helical LSD in an S5 NA?
I'm seeing a few sellers on ebay offering what looks like a torsen LSD for non-turbo FCs, for around $400 new.
Does any have experience with this?
As far as installing it, I imagine I just have to take my old diff out of the housing and swap the gear over to the new one, torque the bolts back down and drop it back in? Everything else staying the same?
The only two useful peices of information I've gathered from searching are some claims that in general, a torsen LSD won't fit in an NA diff. housing. Which I'm unsure the accuracy of since these auctions are targetted at non-turbo models. Icemark has also stated that pinion preload has to be set? I don't know what that means.
I've found very few threads on this topic.
Any information is appreciated.
Does any have experience with this?
As far as installing it, I imagine I just have to take my old diff out of the housing and swap the gear over to the new one, torque the bolts back down and drop it back in? Everything else staying the same?
The only two useful peices of information I've gathered from searching are some claims that in general, a torsen LSD won't fit in an NA diff. housing. Which I'm unsure the accuracy of since these auctions are targetted at non-turbo models. Icemark has also stated that pinion preload has to be set? I don't know what that means.
I've found very few threads on this topic.
Any information is appreciated.
05-01-06, 04:53 PM
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if it is a complete carrier housing then it could be made to fit the n/a diff.
preload is dependent on how close to OEM tolerances the carrier was made with, if it is a sloppy fit then both the pinion depth and carrier bearing preloads will need to be setup or the gears will make noise and or eat up the bearings causing damage to the differential.
preload is dependent on how close to OEM tolerances the carrier was made with, if it is a sloppy fit then both the pinion depth and carrier bearing preloads will need to be setup or the gears will make noise and or eat up the bearings causing damage to the differential.
05-01-06, 05:05 PM
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The simple fact that it has the OBX name attached to it means you shouldn't buy it. Not to mention the price attached to it. You get what you pay for and you'll be sorry if you pay for that.
05-01-06, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by riverzendz
The simple fact that it has the OBX name attached to it means you shouldn't buy it. Not to mention the price attached to it. You get what you pay for and you'll be sorry if you pay for that.
Do you think I would be worse off with a new OBX LSD than with a 15 year old worn out stock LSD?
It is intended for street use. I don't plan to be doing drag launches with it.
05-01-06, 05:12 PM
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oh god, here we go....
i seriously doubt OBX even manufactures anything on their own, they are just a name who farms out work to the lowest bidder. sometimes the lowest bidder can do a decent job for a fair price, sometimes you just get pure crap. yes it is true you often get what you pay for but often times the prices are just jacked out of proportion and most people like you think that paying more is better, which alot of the time it isn't since you are just lining someones wallet. until something has been proven to be junk then to me it is just in that grey area.
i seriously doubt OBX even manufactures anything on their own, they are just a name who farms out work to the lowest bidder. sometimes the lowest bidder can do a decent job for a fair price, sometimes you just get pure crap. yes it is true you often get what you pay for but often times the prices are just jacked out of proportion and most people like you think that paying more is better, which alot of the time it isn't since you are just lining someones wallet. until something has been proven to be junk then to me it is just in that grey area.
05-01-06, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Karack
oh god, here we go....
i seriously doubt OBX even manufactures anything on their own, they are just a name who farms out work to the lowest bidder. sometimes the lowest bidder can do a decent job for a fair price, sometimes you just get pure crap. yes it is true you often get what you pay for but often times the prices are just jacked out of proportion and most people like you think that paying more is better, which alot of the time it isn't since you are just lining someones wallet. until something has been proven to be junk then to me it is just in that grey area.
i seriously doubt OBX even manufactures anything on their own, they are just a name who farms out work to the lowest bidder. sometimes the lowest bidder can do a decent job for a fair price, sometimes you just get pure crap. yes it is true you often get what you pay for but often times the prices are just jacked out of proportion and most people like you think that paying more is better, which alot of the time it isn't since you are just lining someones wallet. until something has been proven to be junk then to me it is just in that grey area.
Ok. Nice. First off, I've had first hand experience with OBX equip. and while I have not had personal experience with their LSD I can say that everything else that I've sold with their name on it has been on the low side of a quality product. Most people like me? Whatever. That's a very uneducated statement and you should think before you speak. Some prices are jacked out of proportion and some are relative to the time and construction of a quality product. You are more than welcome to waste your money on this LSD to prove me wrong. Go for it, I won't feel sorry for you when you realize it was a waste. Immediate results might be just fine for this product and if you're one for immediate satisfaction then it's probably a deal. However, you may find out real soon that this could end up causing more mechanical harm than good and I for one would rather err on the side of caution. Hey, like I said no personal experience with this LSD but I've had plenty of experience with OBX products and so far not so good. To each his own.
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05-02-06, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by riverzendz
Ok. Nice. First off, I've had first hand experience with OBX equip. and while I have not had personal experience with their LSD I can say that everything else that I've sold with their name on it has been on the low side of a quality product. Most people like me? Whatever. That's a very uneducated statement and you should think before you speak. Some prices are jacked out of proportion and some are relative to the time and construction of a quality product. You are more than welcome to waste your money on this LSD to prove me wrong. Go for it, I won't feel sorry for you when you realize it was a waste. Immediate results might be just fine for this product and if you're one for immediate satisfaction then it's probably a deal. However, you may find out real soon that this could end up causing more mechanical harm than good and I for one would rather err on the side of caution. Hey, like I said no personal experience with this LSD but I've had plenty of experience with OBX products and so far not so good. To each his own.
maybe i was taking a jab but my reply was hardly less than experienced, i have built many differentials and have used aftermarket and stock parts. for the most part aftermarket parts are beefier than OEM units but the machining tolerances on OEM is usually better.
05-02-06, 01:31 AM
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I have a miata shifter from them, and Im happy. Its just like Karack said it goes out to the lowest bidder and sometimes it turns out ok, other times not so ok.
05-02-06, 02:44 AM
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lol. I sell alot of OBX products. I get alot of their stuff like air cleaners, short shifters and turbo kits at wholesale price. I have been selling their stuff as a second job here in Ft. Lauderdale (my friend and I are trying to start a performance shop), and I havent had any bad reviews. Although, most of the products I sell are for Honda.
05-03-06, 12:07 PM
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Can't say anything specific about these LSDs, however, the Torsen units from Miatas are a direct swap for a non-turbo LSD. SOOO, to answer one of the original questions, theroetically, yes, there are Torsen (helical) units available that will fit a non-turbo rear. Good luck finding a used one though -- they are usually snapped up very quickly.
