incendui

I recently bought a 90 tII, and while theres an aftermarket boost gauge, theres no stock one. anyone know if this was an option? the car also has no manual windows and cloth seats. The rims also arent the normal s5 tII rims (though the seller never said the rims were original) were those an option as well?

Scott 89t2

are you sure it's a turbo II? does it have a volt gauge? either they swaped gague custers. or swaped a turbo engine into a non turbo.

incendui

yeah, it has a volt guage. and yes I'm sure its a turbo, well Im sure the engine is a tubo one anyway. Nice obvious intercooler on top of it. Besides, has that nice turbo feel when driving it. i one of the previous owners couldve swapped the engines, but that seems like a fairly complicated thing to do.

incendui

is there some way to tell if it came turbo stock? according to the vin its not (has a 1 instead of a 2 in whatever place is supposed to designate that) but then a couple other people in the forum replied their turbos had a 1 there too.

Evil Aviator

Non-turbo cars begin with JM1FC331
Turbo II's begin with JM1FC332

Did the other people on the forum with mis-matched VIN's buy their car new?

As far as I know, there weren't any optional wheels offered for the FC's.

Do you have a picture?

Scott 89t2

all the US turbo cars have the 2 in it http://fc3s-pro.com/reg.html

I'd guess you bought an N/A with a turbo swap.

Rx-7Addict

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Yes, all original Turbo IIs should have JM1FC332.....

Is there a sunroof? Power windows?

Ryde _Or_Die

Just hope they did a full swap and not just the engine. Or else I would keep it close to stock if I were you.

Evil Aviator

That's a good point. Look under the car and check out the rectangular part of the transmission. A non-turbo transmission is "smooth" and has 1 fill plug on the side and 1 drain plug on the bottom. A TII transmission is "ribbed" and has 3 plugs on the side and 1 drain plug on the bottom.

incendui

Heres some pics of the transmission and various other things.

Underside of transmission


Another transmission pic


Brakes

Scott 89t2

hmm, my comments

1: looks like single piston front brakes!! not good.
2: those are 87/88 turbo II rims. on your 90
3: doesn't have the s5 turbo II body kit
4: "rotary turbo with intercool" I'm pretty sure that's the J-spec wording.
5: you need to take a further away or from the side tranny pic. but I see 2 plugs = N/A tranny.

5/5 says turbo engine in a non turbo car. and with single piston brakes and N/A drive train a very weak turbo car...

Rx-7Addict

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that is a major bummer..

If you bought it recently, I would try to talk to the guy and voice your concerns about the car. If he said it is a 90 T2, that is misleading, as it is simply a 90 N/A with a Turbo engine.

Good luck with the car

seveninphilly

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I can tell you that isn't a n/a trany, Mine has no ribs like that

could very well be a conversion

Ryde _Or_Die

Pretty sure that is a jspec i/c and more than likely engine. I am 100% sure he got a jspec engine swap. Just not sure if the rest was swapped as well. Take a pic from farther away under the tranny if you can.

Evil Aviator

That's a TII transmission. The inspection plug and other drain plug are out of view. The NA transmission has a flat bottom with the drain plug in the middle.
http://home.tampabay.rr.com/spinraci...inexhaust5.jpg

How thick is the driveshaft (diameter or circumference)?

The car doesn't look like a TII, though. Are you sure that car is a 90?
http://mrmazda.members.atlantic.net/mdictionary.html

That is definitely a non-turbo 89-92 dash.

Yes, those are single-piston brake calipers from a non-turbo RX-7. The 4-piston are better, but the single-piston work just fine.

The intercooler looks strange, not only the wording but also the metal-colored front pipe.

Overall it looks really nice, although I'm not sure if the seller represented the car properly.

Scott 89t2

how can you see the dash? LOL...

it's got the s5 bumper, mirrors, and auto seat belts. I HIGHLY doubt anyone would convert an S4 to auto belts. so it's probably a 90.

Icemark

No matter what engine is supposed to be in there, Micky Mouse ran that amplifer power wire!!!! That needs to be fixed ASAP!!!!



Running across the trail coils... betcha it has engine noise... No protective cover, like vinyl tubing or GM/Camo tubing... doesn't look like it even is tied down to anything. And it appears to be routed next to the exhaust??? scary!!!

When that loose 4 AWG wire rubs through the intercooler and welds itself to the engine, you are gonna have a big fire... When it melts about half way through then that nice 100 amp circuit breaker will snap.

incendui

I guess at this point I just have to accept someone screwed me over. What other parts on a conversion besides the tranny wouldnt hold up to the power? Also, any guess how much less is it worth than a real TII?

Matlock

In some ways I would consider your self lucky. You do have a Turbo!

autocrash

yeah, and from the looks of it you have a turbo drivetrain too.... so your not doing too bad...

incendui

was finally able to talk to the guy who had the car before the guy I bought it from. He of course was happy to tell me about it. Apparantly he did the swap, and he swapped in the engine, tranny, and driveshaft from a Turbo. the engines from a 91, probably jdm. So unless Im forgetting something its just the rear end and brakes which are different from a real turbo. guess I can live with that. heh, maybe I'll just make the best of it and get a fmic and n/a hood. be a nice sleeper.

Scott 89t2

hmm he must have goten a custom driveshaft made cause nothing will bolt the turbo tranny to the N/A rear end. the N/A rear end is kinda weak. I wouldn't be moding the engine too much or it won't hold up.

autocrash

sounds like a plan... maybe get those brakes and rear end upgraded first before u go with a FMIC.... Does the turbo driveshaft even fit into a N/A rearend (without modification...)?

Piranha

Did you pay any less than what you would with the TII? If you feel ripped off, do something about it... if he said it was a TII and isn't, that isn't right.

Evil Aviator

If the car was advertised as a TII, then that would be fraud. There isn't much price difference between a TII and NA (see kbb.com), but that's not really the point here.

The TII driveshaft will not bolt to an NA rear end. It would greatly concern me if this guy used some ghetto method to make it fit. A broken driveshaft can kill you. Also, the NA halfshafts are not as large as the TII halfshafts. You may want to ask the previous owner about this.

BTW, my link for the NA transmission pic didn't work. It's shown in the 3inexhaust5.jpg on the below web page. Sorry about that.
http://web.tampabay.rr.com/spinracin...ust/index.html

My super-secret moderator powers allow me to have Evil psychic x-ray vision into his website.
http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/nrainvil/pics/9.jpg

I was wondering if it was an 89. LOL, good point about the seat belts.