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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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no power to L coil

my leading coil is not getting power trailing is. what do to...1988 GTU 950 miles on new rebuild
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 11:05 PM
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hows the motor run? if the trailing is getting power so should the leading are you checking the right wire the g/y wire. Im pretty sure it only gets power when the ecu puts out power when the ignition should be firing. I thought i would be ground controlled but the wiring harness looks like that ecu sends power from pin V 2nd from the left on the bigger connector from the fornt harness and its grounded through b/y...
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 11:09 PM
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my bad no from a second look...jeeze the wiring harness is a little confusing... well anyway i believe it is ground controlled. g/y goes to the ecu and grounds when needed to be fired. B/Y is going to be your power and should be constant, well it recieves power from the main relay so whenever that is energized it will have power. koeo...if the trailing has power the leading should have power also. if not there doesnt seem to be any fuses so you will have to dig back into the harness looking for a break... may want to try and see if there is continuity between the B/Y and main relay before tearing up the harness

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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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Only no power to the leading? How are you testing this?

You should be checking for 12V at the black/yellow wire with the key set to IGN.

If you have 12V there, then check the + connection on the coil. You should also have 12V present with the key on IGN.

If you are missing 12V from the black/yellow, the problem is with the EGI fuse or main relay.
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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i didnt want to go get my ohm meter... i was in my second garage.. so i just hooked up a timming light to the wires... put it on my leading wires turned it over and no light. than put it on my trailer wires.. and i get light.. now its the next day i have sun light iam going in with the ohm meter to see whats up.
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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motor almost wants to run on just the trailing is this possible?
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 01:48 PM
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Im having the exact same problem, but with opposite coils. I get signal with the timing light on my leading, but none on the trailing.
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankV702
Im having the exact same problem, but with opposite coils. I get signal with the timing light on my leading, but none on the trailing.
makes more sense sense the power comes from the leading coil correct? so somewhere from the L coil to the T coil there is no power..
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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well both recieve power from the main relay. thats what makes it confusing to have power at one and not the other. The wiring diaghram showes them having seperate branches in parallel. so there is a possiblity that one may have power and not the other. which would mean somewhere from the mainrelay to the connection theres a break in the line. Quite unusual unless some mouse got hungry. you were check with the key on right? and what tested the b/y wires at the trailing?
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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i tested with a timing light. also the trailing plugs dont get flooded the leading do so thats another indication i would assume iam going out there right now to check with an ohm meter where and where not iam gettiing a 12v source
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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ok so iam getting 12v source @ black and yellow wire, i swapped coils last night with a known working one that didnt help.
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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From what i'm reading, your assuming that you dont have power to your coil. Am i saying that correctly. If your hooking up your timing light and not getting spark, it could just be a bad coil.
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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L coil is getting 12v, coil sparks three times before dying when first cranking
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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Pull the CAS from the engine and spin it manually with the key on IGN. The leading coil should spark (do NOT use a timing light to test for spark) as long as you are rotating the CAS. If not, then you will need a scope to do further troubleshooting without swapping parts around.
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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if the cas is bad than wouldnt i not get fuel?
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 10:24 PM
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I was over at the house looking at the car and we used a spare CAS to test for spark. We got nothing. I'm assuming that the CAS we used was fragged or something. I'm almost willing to bet that there's probably some sort of break in the harness somewhere or something.

I spoke with Icemark and Karack over the phone about this particular issue and all three of us find it bizzare that the leading coil would spark 3 times then go dead on cranking.

I'm stumped.
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
Pull the CAS from the engine and spin it manually with the key on IGN. The leading coil should spark (do NOT use a timing light to test for spark) as long as you are rotating the CAS. If not, then you will need a scope to do further troubleshooting without swapping parts around.
Will the trailing spark by spinning the CAS manually with the IGN on? Or is there a similiar method to check for spark on the trailing side??
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RX7 allnight
if the cas is bad than wouldnt i not get fuel?
Correct.

Originally Posted by FrankV702
Will the trailing spark by spinning the CAS manually with the IGN on? Or is there a similiar method to check for spark on the trailing side??
All ignition channels will be fired when you spin the CAS. And if you open the AFM slightly then the fuel pump will run and injectors will fire as well.
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 04:00 PM
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iam swapping AFM's as mentioned by icemark the batt is dead iam charging it now and iall see what happens, stay tuned..
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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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i changed AFM's and now i have consistant spark
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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its running i thought it was the afm, but than i put the old one back on for ***** n giggles and it still ran so iam stumped but it runs.. so as we all know.. dont fix it if it aint broken
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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Sounds like you have an intermittant connection somewhere. Check around the AFM and CAS.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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along with swapping afms, i reconnected alot of connectors including the ecu,cas,afm also my ground wasent hooked up tightly below the drivers strut tower.. what ground is that for, it runs with the harness..
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