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the NGK wideband, what have you guys heard about it?
also has anyone used it yet?
here is a link
http://www.ngksparkplugs.com//produc...000&country=US
thanks

FrankV702

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Thats a dead link for me :/ But I didn't even know they made widbands. Is it just a Wideband O2 sensor? Or is it the controller and gauge kit (or something to monitor the A/F with)

87 t-66

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link no worky

pistones

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i got the ngk afx and it works awesome! the only thing is the display, it's about the size of a pack of cigarrettes so it's hard to find a clean place to mount to. but just wait till i have mine mounted, i'll post pics soon. i have to say the kit is great quality though. nice harness and connectors, compared to others like innovate. the ngk harness is wrapped in expandable loom. the O2 sensor itself is also supposedly more accurate than bosch. it's also cheaper than AEM.

TitosToy

we need a new link

charge

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awesome! thats what i wanted to know also
i was sure to buy the NGK AFX anyway, but now i am confident.

ps. i think its cheap too! 240-260$ for the whole kit

SpooledupRacing

http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/product...x.asp?mode=nml

FCKing1995

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Im getting one. Itll be perfect for me, since I have a nice little spot for one

pistones

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suckas! i got mine for $158. well i also used to work for a shop so that helped. anyways definitely a quality wideband, just have to deal with display box. it kinda reminds me of the motec display.

peachykeenwight

Got mine with an NTK sensor for $270. =)

I'll let you guys know how it works once the damn car starts running.

SpooledupRacing

I personally perfer the colored bars along with the digital reading I think I will stick with the aem one over the ngk one

FrankV702

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+1

87 t-66

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yeah im not a big fan of the display either...im using the apexi auto timers display for my innovate unit

charge

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what are these colorbars for? i think the digital reading is enough lol.

14.7:1 is for best gas milage
and 12,5:1 for noice performance

so where is the problem?

FrankV702

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i guess its for us cosmetic junkies.. and a gauge is easier to mount and in my opinion looks better then a box

FrankV702

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How did you get the auto timer (thats the small tiny lil timer right?) to work with the wideband o2 sensor?? I have one of those timers also.

charge

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ya sure the AEM blackface is looking better than the NGK box display haha, i guess i'll mount mine inside the glovebox

FrankV702

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Have you tried mounting it on top of the steering column? I think it would look pretty good mounted right there.. and it would be in plain sight for you

charge

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i havent got one yet

but.. no i dont want it right infront of me lol. i am sure i will find a nice place for it
i am more worried about my gauges, need to place 4 of them, but i hate a-pillars

peachykeenwight

Yeah, you don't need it for everyday driving anyway... I'd just tuck it away someplace like the glovebox and only use it during tuning and stuff.

SpooledupRacing

in a wideband the bars and numbers are both the same in acuracy and if u are doing a hard pull and what to see your a/f's it is easier to look up at the lights quickly to see if u are rich, lean or stoich then to read numbers...

I know around here even on the highway if u are doing a pull for street performance u need to keep an eye for police and other drivers on the road a quick glace for color is easier then having to READ a set of numbers

Dave

SpooledupRacing

btw I think if u are boosting, tuning or anything other then stock u need the wideband visible at all time cause it can tell u when u are having probems before its to late..

clogged injector
fuel pump dieing
temp changes and density in air effects af's and egt's
etc

TitosToy

or have a friend to drive and you can tune it w/o the hassles (but dont forget about the cops!!)

SpooledupRacing

yeah sorry it is not that easy.. you cant always relay on having somone there.. besides I do most my own tuning not only that but nobody drives my car!

OGFC

noob question, but is wideband O2 pretty much plug and play? or what?