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Old 08-09-05, 12:24 PM
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New Turbo II, No start

Ok here goes, i recently bought an 89 rx7 turbo II, it was 1900 bucks it doesn't run but it turns over and i've seen it run b4 just not recently.

We have tried to pop start it with no avail it will try and start idle for half a second then die, if you try and press the gas nothing..

The tach doesn't even pretend to move when you crank the car.

The starter ended up being bad so we replaced it now it cranks much more healthy but still no start

I have preformed the flooding procedure mulitple times.

This car is ALL stock no motor rebuilds nothing it has 71000 miles on it and i would really like to drive this bad boy. Pleace help me fix my seven.

I don't know a lot about rotery motors but im not a noob mechanic. What wires should have spark on the startup? leading or trailing, also what is an easy way to check that the injectors are gettin fuel. Im stumped any help or insight on this situation would be great thanks
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Leading should have spark.
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First of all, does it even catch then die without push-starting it? Theres a very good possibility you have bad plugs. I'd go out and get some new ones, just make sure they are the right ones (NGK's only). You also might not be getting enough fuel due to a clogged filter or something, but I'd change the plugs first and see what happens. Either way, if you can get the car to catch at all, even with push starting it, it doesn't sound like flooding is your problem.
Anyway, welcome to the rotary world. Sometimes it takes a little bit of time and effort to get them running, but it will all be worth it once you do.
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Its got NGK's in it and they are pretty new(still worth replacing) The last owner mentioned that the tach would randomly work and then not work b4 the car stopped running. He said when the tach would stop the check engine light would come on... So i tried to pull the codes and when i jumped the wire i got nothing. Even when i 1st put the key in the igntion the check light doesn't even flash, every other light does. The fuel filter is also new... It has some shitty carquest plug wires on it that i would like to change but other then that im stumped this car is stock thanks for all the replys
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bump this up This car is fun to look at, i bet its even more fun to drive! Now if it would only start :P
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Give it some time, there will be plenty of knowledgable people on in the evenings.
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if the tach does not work, doesnt that mean that one of the coil packs is junk?
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update

ok so i have checked for spark and when i put the wire to the shock tower i get nothing, i also put starting fluid in the intake and it didn't change anything, i smelt the exhaust and it just smells like the either not gas
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1.take off the fuel pipe check for fuel

2.place leading coil lead with plug in on to intercoler or such like check for spark

3.check compression

this list could go on and on try these for now
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also how do i check for the engine codes, i have read threw the faq and i jumped the one wire green plug to the ground on the battery and then turn the car to on, and nothing no light at all, the check light doesn't even flash..
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ok we checked for spark in leading and trailing nothing

i jumped the wires for the fuel pump and it prims...
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^dude...uve got bad coils...not sure which ones are bad...maybe even both...or you've got wiring issues...but the tach runs off of the trailing coil...and if you havnt blown ur meter fuse (7.5amp)...and the wiring looks fine...that coil is toast...

1.)check the power to both of the coils...should be 12v
2.)if there isnt any power to the coils...there lies ur problem...either you've got wiring issues...or the coils(s) is/are bad.

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bump. i have no spark, fuel primes, and compression is good. which coil is most likely to go out first??
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^did u check the voltage??? u may just not have power GETTING to the coils...that would be more common than both of them failing...
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Ok im going to check the voltage b4 the coils tomorrow but i need to know how come i can't check my codes Do rx 7s check light supposed to flash whe you turn the key on, because mine does not, when i ground the wire it does nothing is this normal.?
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From what i have read if the check engine light does not turn on when the key is turned to on it means that the ecu isn't even turning on, is this true?? how often do ecu's on these cars just 'poop' out? I really wanna drive my new FC help me
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i see your tii has wheels from a v8 car... is this a hint at the future?
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Originally Posted by bkm_rx7
^dude...uve got bad coils...not sure which ones are bad...maybe even both...or you've got wiring issues...but the tach runs off of the trailing coil...and if you havnt blown ur meter fuse (7.5amp)...and the wiring looks fine...that coil is toast...

1.)check the power to both of the coils...should be 12v
2.)if there isnt any power to the coils...there lies ur problem...either you've got wiring issues...or the coils(s) is/are bad.

keep us posted

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^ Your the closest person i've seen to my name, brendan, is it just me or do you wish you just got brandon sometimes? Sorry for the random comment.

anyways... yeah coil packs could be bad, also make sure your getting proper power/connection to them. I managed to be an idiot at one point and connect my battery backwards, blew the trailing coil and the meter fuse. Anyways good luck.
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Originally Posted by hondaturbo2
From what i have read if the check engine light does not turn on when the key is turned to on it means that the ecu isn't even turning on, is this true?? how often do ecu's on these cars just 'poop' out? I really wanna drive my new FC help me
IDK about S5's but all your idiot lights should turn on when you initialy kick the key on. Check fuses, that should give you a good start, make sure to do it with a voltage tester or test light, and make sure your key is on while doing it.
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i see your tii has wheels from a v8 car... is this a hint at the future?
...and you need to shut the hell up.
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Yea the mustang wheels are fosure gonna go as soon as this bad boy runs, i just can't afford to dump money into fixing this thing and wheels at the same time...

Why would I put a v8 in this when ill rock v8s with the turbo motor??? 1.3liter baby.

Where is the meter fuse, if its under the dash then its good cause i've checked them all...

The kid i bought the car from said to me that he put a battery in and it shot fluid everywhere.. I don't really know what that means or if he may have put it in backwords. Thanks for all the replys
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step1: go to advance autoparts
2: buy a tow rope
3: attach one end of the tow rope to the tow hook on the fornt side of the rx7
4: attach the other side to a running car
5: sit in the car
6: turn ignition to ON
7: put the car in 1st gear
8: tell the person in the other car to drive slowly (under 5mph), pulling the rx7 while its in 1st gear
9: be in awe as the car starts and runs.

this is what we did to my 89 TII that i bought non-running. ALSO, before all of this make sure you do a compression test after you've verified it has spark and fuel. if its below 80 on either rotor, you're wasting your time.
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It has NO spark and i can hear the fuel pump prime but no matter how much i crank it over the exhaust doesn't smell like gas. I sprayed starting fluid in it and i can smell that in the exhaust but not gas
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check the EGI fuse in the engine bay. look at it closely, make sure its not blown. report back.
edit: also, dont burn up your starter. dont crank it for more than 5 seconds at a time.


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