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New pillow balls in rear trailing arms LOOSE ??? Help!

Old Mar 17, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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Question New pillow ***** in rear trailing arms LOOSE ??? Help!

I just had all of my suspension bushings and pillow ***** replaced, and the racing shop which pressed them says that the pillow ***** in the rear trailing arms are able to move and not super-tight in their sockets... they are brand new, from mazda, OEM pillow ***** for that location, and I double-checked the part number. Has anybody had this issue and can somebody suggest what I should do about it? I'm clueless.

Please help, I need to get my suspension up by Friday.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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Yeah I found the same thing after I bought mine, so I didn't bother replacing the ones there. I think the pillow ***** are metal on metal anyway.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 05:56 PM
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Which is all well and good if you still have the originals... which I don't since the guy who pressed them out so that I could powdercoat them threw them away irrecoverably (I think he screwed them up getting them out)...

Regardless, try and find the snap rings for these pillow *****. They don't come in the pillow ball kit (26-230), and they are NOT listed in the parts diagram. So I was screwed, basically. Well I called Ray Crowe at Malloy Mazda in Woodbridge Va, who is well known on these boards for RX-7 parts... the guy is a ******* genius I swear... he found these unfindable parts, and located the LAST TWO in inventory in the entire US (maybe north america I'm not sure)... They should be here Friday... I was sweating bullets... I don't want to buy two new control arms at Mazda's ridiculously stupid prices... Anyway, thanks to Ray I might have a good shot at getting my car back on the road. BTW his prices kick *** too... lower than my dealer pays!!! If you need stock parts I can't recommend anybody higher.

BTW a friend of mine says yeah the pillow ***** are loose when they go in but they expand as you drive and get nice and tight, so not to worry. But keep those snap rings!!!
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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While Ray's at it, where the heck do you get the O rings that seal the brake fluid passages between the front 4 piston caliper halves?

You know, Mazda doesn't sell these since they don't want you dis-assembling the front calipers. I just called 15 stores in Atlanta but they only sell regular O rings, not ones that can tolerate brake fluid. Guess I'll be buying 4 $3.95 multi-packs of the generic sized ones that can tolerate brake fluid (their redish-orange, not black).
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 12:56 PM
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Which is all well and good if you still have the originals... which I don't since the guy who pressed them out so that I could powdercoat them threw them away irrecoverably (I think he screwed them up getting them out)...

Regardless, try and find the snap rings for these pillow *****. They don't come in the pillow ball kit (26-230), and they are NOT listed in the parts diagram. So I was screwed, basically. Well I called Ray Crowe at Malloy Mazda in Woodbridge Va, who is well known on these boards for RX-7 parts... the guy is a ******* genius I swear... he found these unfindable parts, and located the LAST TWO in inventory in the entire US (maybe north america I'm not sure)... They should be here Friday... I was sweating bullets... I don't want to buy two new control arms at Mazda's ridiculously stupid prices... Anyway, thanks to Ray I might have a good shot at getting my car back on the road. BTW his prices kick *** too... lower than my dealer pays!!! If you need stock parts I can't recommend anybody higher.

BTW a friend of mine says yeah the pillow ***** are loose when they go in but they expand as you drive and get nice and tight, so not to worry. But keep those snap rings!!!
I live locally to Malloy Mazda, so I buy all my parts from Ray Crowe...Ray is a great guy!

How did your car act with the worn pillow *****?

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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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Well I have not installed a good suspension yet (its going in this weekend if all goes well) to compare against, but the car handled pretty much like a normal car with everything worn... I definitely didn't feel "special" in it.

Vaughn, give Ray a call.. Malloy Mazda (703) 490-8170 and ask for Ray Crowe. He's the man to talk to... works wonders and deserves everybody's business. I know they exist too... Those calipers get rebuilt somehow. My friend takes them apart regularly and re-uses the same o-rings without problems, that might be an option but, like you, I prefer to go the extra mile and do it by the book usually.
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