NEW MEMBER need convincing buying a rx7 genII
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NEW MEMBER need convincing buying a rx7 genII
Hello people,
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My name is Gerald. I am of course thinking of purchasing a generation 2 rx7, for reasons such as it's a great looking car, i mean after looking at some of the club members pics i've found a lot of nice looking cars here.
I am starting a racing club here in michigan with my friend. he has a camaro and he is going to hybrid a gnx engine into his and the club name is DV8. i recently purchased a beretta gt. but after many considerations its not worth me trying to make fast. so there, i decided to buy a older sports car, such as this rx7. i first considered the supra but it doesn't have the curves that i like, so i like the rx7 plus it's smaller, i'm a big guy but i love small cars.
(MAIN QUESTION)--------> ok here's my series of questions. I was looking into buying the car for the purpose of adding speed and audio to it. it's a hatchback so i can really work with that for spl. its a very good looking car, are there any bodykits available for it? what should i look for in the car? how much money would i expect to pay for one of these? which one is the easiest to make really quick between the years and if there is anything else or any other information that u guys could include that could help me with my purchasing of this car, would be delightful.
I've taken a look at the 1/4 mile times and i like the 7.6 quarter mile off of rx7.com.... i don't plan on being that fast maybe somewhere around the low 11's or something just being a street car, thanks and good bye...
(main question at bottom)
My name is Gerald. I am of course thinking of purchasing a generation 2 rx7, for reasons such as it's a great looking car, i mean after looking at some of the club members pics i've found a lot of nice looking cars here.
I am starting a racing club here in michigan with my friend. he has a camaro and he is going to hybrid a gnx engine into his and the club name is DV8. i recently purchased a beretta gt. but after many considerations its not worth me trying to make fast. so there, i decided to buy a older sports car, such as this rx7. i first considered the supra but it doesn't have the curves that i like, so i like the rx7 plus it's smaller, i'm a big guy but i love small cars.
(MAIN QUESTION)--------> ok here's my series of questions. I was looking into buying the car for the purpose of adding speed and audio to it. it's a hatchback so i can really work with that for spl. its a very good looking car, are there any bodykits available for it? what should i look for in the car? how much money would i expect to pay for one of these? which one is the easiest to make really quick between the years and if there is anything else or any other information that u guys could include that could help me with my purchasing of this car, would be delightful.
I've taken a look at the 1/4 mile times and i like the 7.6 quarter mile off of rx7.com.... i don't plan on being that fast maybe somewhere around the low 11's or something just being a street car, thanks and good bye...
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You want to run 11s with a full stereo and body kit? Well, your best bet for speed is to start with a Turbo II model, or start with a light model like a sport and add a turbocharged drivetrain. Best of luck to you.
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Originally posted by RETed
The FC SUCKS for a competition level sound system (sound quality)...
-Ted
The FC SUCKS for a competition level sound system (sound quality)...
-Ted
Like I said earlier, Civics have a very good rep. for sound competitons and they have a large aftermarket. For bodykits and mods period, the civic is a great place to start. good luck curious george!
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I think my stereo sounds pretty damn good. One JL 12W6 in the hatch and JBL 6.5 inch speakers in the front and back. Its only like a 350 watt system but it is loud as **** because the car is so small, and after I took care of all the rattles I think it sounds pretty damn good. I don't know about competitions or anything though.
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As far as bodykits, take a look at your selection here:
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http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4292175087
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http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4292175087
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Re: NEW MEMBER need convincing buying a rx7 genII
Originally posted by curious_george_DV8n
its a very good looking car, are there any bodykits available for it?
its a very good looking car, are there any bodykits available for it?
Originally posted by curious_george_DV8n
what should i look for in the car? how much money would i expect to pay for one of these?
what should i look for in the car? how much money would i expect to pay for one of these?
Originally posted by curious_george_DV8n
which one is the easiest to make really quick between the years
which one is the easiest to make really quick between the years
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stinkfist is obviously pulling your leg
Turbo II is the fastest and is capable of 450+HP.
TIIs with a strong engine start around $3500 US and go up to 7500+ depending on condition & modifications.
The NA (non turbos) are a bit cheaper but max out at 180-200HP with mods.
Turbo II is the fastest and is capable of 450+HP.
TIIs with a strong engine start around $3500 US and go up to 7500+ depending on condition & modifications.
The NA (non turbos) are a bit cheaper but max out at 180-200HP with mods.
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Originally posted by RETed
The FC SUCKS for a competition level sound system (sound quality)...
-Ted
The FC SUCKS for a competition level sound system (sound quality)...
-Ted
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Please people...I've been doing the car audio thing since 1988 - when most of you were in diapers. I'm talking SOUND QUALITY, not SPL - any idiot can stuff subwoofer into any car and make noise.  The front stage on the FC is tricky because:
1) stock locations in the dash is a JOKE
2) door panels are non-existent
3) The 5.25" hole in the MIDDLE of the doors are crap for imaging, unless you have a fancy time-alignment DSP box.
4) The driver's side kickpanel is in a bad position due to the close proximity of the dead pedal.  I'm a big kickpanel advocate, and my dead-pedal was something I did not want to give up.
About the only way to get a decent front-stage is to run something in the top of the dash, which ends up mounting in a flimsy, thin metal panel.  To do this properly, you need to throw away that metal panel and build something custom - too much trouble in my book.  Add to that, imaging bouncing off the front windshield is a hit or miss affair - sometimes it works great after initial install, and sometime is sounds like *** no matter how much EQ or time-alightment you throw at it.
I don't like to brag, but before I was into FC's, I was a big car audio nut.  I was into it when it was the "golden years" of car audio.  I know a thing or two about tuning for sound quality - I've tuned several cars that have gone on to win trophies in competitions back in Hawaii - no easy feat back then.  I can pick apart almost any car audio system and make you feel pretty bad - sorry, it's part of "constructive criticism."  I used to get paid for consulting services for car audio tuning...  And I still stand by word that the FC is a royal pain in the *** to install a good SOUND QUALITY system...
-Ted
1) stock locations in the dash is a JOKE
2) door panels are non-existent
3) The 5.25" hole in the MIDDLE of the doors are crap for imaging, unless you have a fancy time-alignment DSP box.
4) The driver's side kickpanel is in a bad position due to the close proximity of the dead pedal.  I'm a big kickpanel advocate, and my dead-pedal was something I did not want to give up.
About the only way to get a decent front-stage is to run something in the top of the dash, which ends up mounting in a flimsy, thin metal panel.  To do this properly, you need to throw away that metal panel and build something custom - too much trouble in my book.  Add to that, imaging bouncing off the front windshield is a hit or miss affair - sometimes it works great after initial install, and sometime is sounds like *** no matter how much EQ or time-alightment you throw at it.
I don't like to brag, but before I was into FC's, I was a big car audio nut.  I was into it when it was the "golden years" of car audio.  I know a thing or two about tuning for sound quality - I've tuned several cars that have gone on to win trophies in competitions back in Hawaii - no easy feat back then.  I can pick apart almost any car audio system and make you feel pretty bad - sorry, it's part of "constructive criticism."  I used to get paid for consulting services for car audio tuning...  And I still stand by word that the FC is a royal pain in the *** to install a good SOUND QUALITY system...
-Ted
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yeah same here.
Imaging's pretty good with the door panels. Midranges in the dash corners will help.
Under dash is good for fill not imaging.
Tuning & imaging will get you good full range sound. A good dose of midbass is what most sound systems are missing. Most systems sound too flat/no life. I cheat a little by using H-DBASS from panasonic
The GOLDEN YEARS needs a good kick in the @$$ by full digital technology though. A little "auto tuning" would be nice
Still hate the fact there's not affordable 24+ EQs/delay/processors that autosence with the head unit & amps.
DAMN IT I WANT AN AUDIO NETWORK!!!!
Imaging's pretty good with the door panels. Midranges in the dash corners will help.
Under dash is good for fill not imaging.
Tuning & imaging will get you good full range sound. A good dose of midbass is what most sound systems are missing. Most systems sound too flat/no life. I cheat a little by using H-DBASS from panasonic
The GOLDEN YEARS needs a good kick in the @$$ by full digital technology though. A little "auto tuning" would be nice
Still hate the fact there's not affordable 24+ EQs/delay/processors that autosence with the head unit & amps.
DAMN IT I WANT AN AUDIO NETWORK!!!!
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okay thanks guys you've been really helpful,
heres the deal. the civics, are gay. there fwd and i wouldn't want to rice out the rx7 i just thought there were a few body kits. no kits. fine with me. but i want a rwd. u said there was a v8 in one, how large is the engine bay? is it big enough to swap like maybe a couple of engines. after looking at some of the cars i just saw how great they looked after a good paint job, and some nice sport rims.
well. what about the ones for like $800. i've seen some for like 800 is that a great deal or no.
thanks
heres the deal. the civics, are gay. there fwd and i wouldn't want to rice out the rx7 i just thought there were a few body kits. no kits. fine with me. but i want a rwd. u said there was a v8 in one, how large is the engine bay? is it big enough to swap like maybe a couple of engines. after looking at some of the cars i just saw how great they looked after a good paint job, and some nice sport rims.
well. what about the ones for like $800. i've seen some for like 800 is that a great deal or no.
thanks
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well dang that car looks cold as heck, on there. so what's up on that price for that car. i've found many that were really cheap, can't they be made out to be fast. can't i throw a turbo in there or something in the na version.
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well dang that car looks cold as heck, on there. so what's up on that price for that car. i've found many that were really cheap, can't they be made out to be fast. can't i throw a turbo in there or something in the na version.
well dang that car looks cold as heck, on there. so what's up on that price for that car. i've found many that were really cheap, can't they be made out to be fast. can't i throw a turbo in there or something in the na version.
Well, I guess you COULD do it that way, but let's not try to find any short cuts, ok? Modding an N/A to a turbo is far more expensive then just buying a TII and modding from there to begin with. It's not an issue of 'can it be made fast'. ANYTHING can be made fast. The issue is how practical is it to make fast.
Heh, and have fun making your 11 second car. :)
As for the price, I'd take a look at the car itself before deciding. $800... with a blown engine? $800 in showroom condition (ha!)? In general, you get what you pay for, and if you're SERIOUS about making something that'll run a 1/4th in 11 seconds, you'd better buy something that well running to start with.
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i guess ur right. cause i found on autotrader like 55 cars for like 1500 and i'm over here wondering. but ur right about u get what u pay for. so what i'll do is save up some extra money and wait until a good 2000-3000 dollar tII comes along. since it's already quick as u put it and doesn't cost as much to work on. as for the spl if u guys could fit three 12's in there then i'm pretty sure i can fit my kicker s15L7 in there and that'll be enough spl for me. thanks
and for those body kits, were those home made or can u actually buy those somewhere, cause i liked a few of them. i guess 11 seconds is kinda fast. well my main goal right now is to be 13 seconds. that's good enough to race anyone around here, on the street. later on i'll worry about the other goals. how reliable is that rotary engine, could i work on it myself? thanks. i'm going to bed
and for those body kits, were those home made or can u actually buy those somewhere, cause i liked a few of them. i guess 11 seconds is kinda fast. well my main goal right now is to be 13 seconds. that's good enough to race anyone around here, on the street. later on i'll worry about the other goals. how reliable is that rotary engine, could i work on it myself? thanks. i'm going to bed
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I'm curious as to what the FC is capable of car audio wise as well. So, your saying its 'impossible' to build up a decent front stage? Kick panels don't fit. How about under dash? Any experience or tips with bouncing off the winshield. It sounds like that would work best to get the sound up to my ear level, or mabye cross shoot it like a kickpanel but on top of the dash?
And as far as making an FC rice rocket, please don't do it. If you plan on roaming around pimping your ride, and flexing your "manliness" at stop lights, and picking up chicks because you thought that'd be cool after seeing Fast and the Furious. Don't insult this car, buy it because you love it. Love the feel and the ride, and the performance. It's not supposed to be a piece of jewelery. If your not thinking like this, then best of luck on your FC quest. It's a beautiful machine. ^_^
There are NICE kits but prepare to pay through the nose(upwards of 2000$ for the kit alone).
Do a SEARCH on making performance upgrades, and good luck. 11 seconds isn't as easy as you think. ^_-
And as far as making an FC rice rocket, please don't do it. If you plan on roaming around pimping your ride, and flexing your "manliness" at stop lights, and picking up chicks because you thought that'd be cool after seeing Fast and the Furious. Don't insult this car, buy it because you love it. Love the feel and the ride, and the performance. It's not supposed to be a piece of jewelery. If your not thinking like this, then best of luck on your FC quest. It's a beautiful machine. ^_^
There are NICE kits but prepare to pay through the nose(upwards of 2000$ for the kit alone).
Do a SEARCH on making performance upgrades, and good luck. 11 seconds isn't as easy as you think. ^_-
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Maeda,
A great audio setup is very obtainable both in stereo imaging, warmth, fill, and engery.
Converting the OEM door subs into full ranges helps much. There's also room to add 2 additional speakers (2 per door) not to mention hatch subs, 8" speakers in the rear towers, tweeters/mids in the dash, etc..
A great audio setup is very obtainable both in stereo imaging, warmth, fill, and engery.
Converting the OEM door subs into full ranges helps much. There's also room to add 2 additional speakers (2 per door) not to mention hatch subs, 8" speakers in the rear towers, tweeters/mids in the dash, etc..
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