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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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New cat vs. straight pipe

I'm considering ordering the SS Auto Chrome exhaust system, and I was wondering if the catalytic converter that comes with it adds much backpressure? Ideally I'd like to go with a section of straight pipe where the cat should be, but I don't want my car to stink and word on the street is that central Indiana is enstating emissions testing sometime in the next few years. How much of a performance difference is there between the SS Auto Chrome cat and a straight section? Also, I want to keep this car as low profile as possible (plus I just don't like ridiculously loud exhausts), how much more backpressure would a presilencer add? Does a presilencer replace the downpipe? Sorry I know this is a lot of questions, but I just want to get as much information as I can before I go and drop $500+ on an exhaust system.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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1. Most cats add a significant amount of backpressure.
2. There will be a very noticeable difference between having a cat and a straight pipe. Racing beat claims that taking away the cat restriction can easily net 13% hp increase. Also, your car will rev faster with the decreased restriction.
3-4. Removing the cat will increase exhaust tone slightly, but not nearly as significantly as mufflers. You may want to consider a presilencer as the straight pipe to replace the cat -- or anywhere in that line. The restriction would be less than a cat as typically these are insulated straight pipes.

Other concerns: It will be a good idea to have the cat switchable. Keep in mind that running without a cat will make people not want to stand/drive behind your car and slowly kills small children. A great idea would be to put the straight pipe on for track and autocross use and use the cat for the streets. I know, exhaust systems aren't cheap - I'm going to work on welding up my own.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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str8 pipe all the way, WOOO!!
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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Yeah, lose the cat. The gains a very noticeable. I have a RB pre-silencer there instead, so the exhaust has a really nice tone, even with the GP Sport exhaust.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Without a cat your car will stink like hell. I couldn't even drive with the window down (made me nauseous) it really stinks. If you drive this car as a daily driver I would highly suggest what sar said.

Go with a straight pipe section for the track and cat for the street. You can switch them out in ten minutes or so.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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whats up with indiana trying to do this emissions stuff. i know that 4 counties do it, but i havent heard anything about central indy...... that would make me very sad.

Brian
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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Would a High-Flow cat cut back on the smells of the exhaust as much as stock?
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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i have an FB with a straight pipe but yes it does stink and people( friends) will tell u it stinks but it is a good hp gain try putting a presilencer on there. dont worry about the cat rotarys stink anyways
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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I swapped out my 3" RB presilencer for a 2.5" highflow cat temporarily to pass emmisions and I swear to god the cat made my car smell like ***. Performance was impacted as well, obviously. But when I swapped the presilencer back in and drove the car around the block the power difference was very noticable and the bad smell went away.

Someone created a thread a while back claiming that the new cat they installed made their car smell worse. I thought they were just crazy until it happened to me!!
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