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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 12:52 PM
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Never let anyone touch your FC

So when I had to replace my clutch I was being lazy about dropping my transmission and let my fathers friend do it who "installed clutches all the time" so I let him install the Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch in my car, I notice when I get it back its nearly impossible to put into gear and even more impossible to put in reverse yesterday I finally let someone drive it who buys and sells cars and he said the reason its hard is because the mechanic didnt bleed the system properly and installed the pressure plates wayy to close together, on an FC the clutch pedal engages about half way up, on mine it engages as soon as my foot leaves the floor and almost kills the car, this is a bad thing. So Im gonna bleed the system this afternoon when my friend comes by but I wanted to know to adjust my clutch do I have to drop transmission and reinstall clutch? Or is there an external adjustment, another person says the clutch doesnt work with the stock flywheel but I dont think thats true, any advice?

Problems:Hard to put in gear, enages too soon
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 12:59 PM
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You can adust the "pickup" point for your clutch by rotating the rod that connects to your master cylinder. This rod is located near the clutch pedal. Look at the pedal and you will see a rod which essentially will run through the firewall and connect w/ your master cylinder.

I would think that your current issue deals w/ air in the system. Bleed the system and see what happens. After you bleed,...see whether that fixes the problem. If not, then consider dropping the tranny.
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 01:01 PM
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engages to soon is a symtpom of the clutch and presure plate you put in...it will get slightly better as the clutch breaks in but this is what high performance clutches do...the CF unit is actually much friendlier in this regard than an ACT. the hard to get into gear thing is probably bc he didn't change the pilot bearingor throw out bearing....a cheap good idea to replace anytime the tranny is out. i'm pretty certain it's NOT bc the system isn't bled properly...
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 01:36 PM
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Well, bleeding my system is free so Im doing that later today and yes, I decided that if it comes to pulled tranny out Im replacing the pilot and throw out bearings, thanks for the help, this has been a problem Ive had to deal with and will be glad when its gone
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 02:16 PM
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i took my car to a mechanic about the clutch... it would stick to the floor... he said it was the clutch going bad... so he replaced it, for 500 bucks, he replaced it and it was still messed up, he called it an error on his part, charged me more money to do it again, and finally... it worked long enough to take it somewhere else... turns out it was the master cylinder... and slave cylinder.. man... people like to **** people these days. I figured it was something easy, but he fed my head with bs.
gotta watch who you take the fc too.
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 02:20 PM
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i took my car to a mechanic about the clutch... it would stick to the floor... he said it was the clutch going bad... so he replaced it, for 500 bucks, he replaced it and it was still messed up, he called it an error on his part, charged me more money to do it again, and finally... it worked long enough to take it somewhere else... turns out it was the master cylinder... and slave cylinder.. man... people like to **** people these days. I figured it was something easy, but he fed my head with bs.
Thats a pretty dumb mechanic, that or he was trying to make some $$ like most mechanics. A slipping clutch is the main sympton of a bad clutch.
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 02:24 PM
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Well the person I took it too was someone my father knew who said did good work but most people who friends say do "Good work" usually do really crappy work on FC's
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 02:25 PM
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Sorry to hear that, but good luck/skill getting her back and running right again!
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by jon88se
engages to soon is a symtpom of the clutch and presure plate you put in...it will get slightly better as the clutch breaks in but this is what high performance clutches do...the CF unit is actually much friendlier in this regard than an ACT. the hard to get into gear thing is probably bc he didn't change the pilot bearingor throw out bearing....a cheap good idea to replace anytime the tranny is out. i'm pretty certain it's NOT bc the system isn't bled properly...
It sure can be because the system isn't bled properly!!

It sounds to me that it's a very good possibility actually.
I bet any money that 's what it is. There is no internal adjustment you can do to the clutch with the tranny dropped- you won't have to worry about that.

If the clutch isn't bled right, it won't be fully disengaging, and your synchros will be doing a lot of work trying to get into 1st or reverse. It will also be disngaging right near the floor.

Bleed it and you'll probably be fine. At worst, one of the cylinders might be going, but that's it- cheap and doesn't need the tranny dropped.

Good luck!
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by Bambam7
It sure can be because the system isn't bled properly!!

It sounds to me that it's a very good possibility actually.
I bet any money that 's what it is. There is no internal adjustment you can do to the clutch with the tranny dropped- you won't have to worry about that.

If the clutch isn't bled right, it won't be fully disengaging, and your synchros will be doing a lot of work trying to get into 1st or reverse. It will also be disngaging right near the floor.

Bleed it and you'll probably be fine. At worst, one of the cylinders might be going, but that's it- cheap and doesn't need the tranny dropped.

Good luck!
Ahh..there we go. I agree with you 100%, if you have air in the hyrdraulics, its basicaly like trying to put the can in gear with the clutch pedal out (engaged). RX-7's use a hydrualic clutch as you know, therefore there is no adjustment like what a cable clutch has, you can just adjust the pedal free play like said above.

And, everyone keeps saying be carefuel who you take your RX-7 to, b/c people dont know them. This is more for motor work IMO, the RX-7's transmission, rear end, brakes, etc., isnt anything unknown to a good technician. Its more like, don't take your car to butt **** retards, but its very hard to find ones that aren't these days.
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