Rexmanwolf

Hey Guys, i currently bought a turbo 2 jdm front clip from a place here in Miami!! I believe the front clip is an 86 through 88 and want to know if the things in it are good for a t2 conversion on a 1991 convertible? If any help i would appreciate it. the clip comes with all the wiring and ecu motor, tranny gauge cluster and all. its the first half of the car so if any help in writing or anything. It would help. Write here or leave me an email at Rexmanwolf@2by2.net

SonicRaT

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It's way more work than it's worth to convert an 86-88 to fit in an 89-91, don't even try.

Here's a list of some things that'd need to be changed

Front cover
OMP
Water pump
TB & TPS
wiring harness
pressure sensor
AFM
ECU
injectors
knock sensor

and etc etc.

Icemark

yeah, stick to the same series, way too many things will need to be changed just inthe conversion, and now you added a whole ton more of crap by not using the right series.

85TIIDEVIL

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He's already elbows deep into a swap even if he had a S4NA. He has the ENTIRE front half of the car... And he ALREADY HAS BOTH VEHICLES..?

Did you see the clip run/start...?

My opinion, he's only missing the fuel pump in order to do the COMPLETE swap and he can buy that aftermarket or used.

Come on... guys put TII swaps into RX2's, 510's, Corollas, 1stgens... it's not impossible and he's asking for guidance.

SonicRaT

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You've obviously never done this before, have you? You can't just swap in the s4 ecu and wiring harnesses, you'd have to change the main harness behind the dash, and almost everyone that branches from that. It's not something that can be guided through, if you can't figure it out by looking at it, you're not going to be able to do it.

85TIIDEVIL

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No... But I've put a 87TII into a 85GS. Ummmmm I'd say even harder then a S5. Sorry, not harder... just in a COMPLETLY different car then the S4 unlike the S5.

SonicRaT

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Well considering this, either change every harness, and turn it into a s4 electronically, or buy all the extra parts for the engine to support what the s5 ECU requires.... Either way it's a hell of a lot more work than it's worth when you can just stick with the same series.

Icemark

Exactly right!

The guy needs to wake up on this, the swap would be easier if he was going into a different car, than into the car he is doing, unless he wants to get all the parts to do it right. Hell the S4 engine harness won't even work with the S5 dash harness, he'll need to re-wire the whole car if he doesn't get all the parts for a S5.

The fact that he is even asking suggests that he has not really researched this through.

Rexmanwolf

Well, I guess thanks for your effort and support!! I have tried everywhere to look for the info and research. If anyone can find me the same series for my 1991 vert then i would appreciate it. So in all, its not worth it???? k, well, thanks anyway so, is it better to get the motor and ecu and change or what else do i need for a conversion to be simple and same series??

Rexmanwolf

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SonicRaT

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You'd need a s5 engine, harness, AFM, ecu, pressure sensor, transmission(any 86-91 turbo), driveshaft (any 86-91 turbo), rear end(any 86-91 turbo), brake booster check valve (any 86-91 turbo), throttle cable (any 86-91 turbo), downpipe (again, any turbo), and a few other things.

MARTIN

Hey wuss up man.... I live in miami I have an 88 vert which im building right now. The engine I had was boosted and I also thought about doing the swap.. I called a few places to do the wiring because I have no clue about the wiring of the harnesses. I heard mixed responses but they were all the same. work has to be done to modify the car. Now Im in the process of building my vert today I finished taking off all the manifolds and everything so that next weekend I could pull the motor early in the day. my suggestion is to build your engine or another n/a engine. most of the stuff these people are talking about you could rip from the engine you have now. the front cover where the omp is, most of the sensors. and the maf are all swappable from your car. its hard work but you could make it happen with some spare time in your hands.

SonicRaT

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This could all be swapped onto another N/A engine, but at the momenthe has a TII front clip and an N/A car that's a s5, so he'd have to sell his tII Front clip and pick up a s4 N/A engine for that, or he could buy the s5 tII parts and do it that way.

MARTIN

Yea man youre right my bad.. I realized that most of the **** are diifferent.. I would sell the front clip or give it back. IMO thats the best way of converting to a turbo. Thats exactly what im doing right now... by the end of this month my engine will be complete

Rexmanwolf

k, well, i guess i will have to get rid of the front clip and just stick to non boost and work my way from there. I rather be simple and all motor then going through a lot of stufff. SO thanks to everyone who commented and helped and if any one can help0 me build horse power on a non turbo car let me know. I already have full exhaust and owrking on k&n intake system. After that who knows, work on fuel management system and stuff. All the help would be appreciated. if anything feel freee to email me at Rexmanwolf@2by2.net

85TIIDEVIL

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REXMAN should swap VERTS with MARTIN. They're both from MIAMI. MARTIN gets a nice S5 and REXMAN gets to do his swap. THERE PROBLEM SOLVED.

Roy James

Yeah, good plan. If not, how much do you want for the frong clip?

Rexmanwolf

Well, im currently working on seeing if i can return or get my money back and the clip i bought it for was $2,000 from RIckys Auto in Homestead. It a right hand drive front clip with everything in it. So if any questions, let me know or call me name is Ralf at 786-326-2630

c-squared

You could sell the ECU, wiring harness, all sensors, TID, etc etc etc. Install the engine, use your S5 alternator, and then buy an aftermarket EMS to run your engine. Microtech is around $700, I believe.

Its a bit more work, but in the end, you get an even better outcome, and you can use this engine and tranny.

Just a thought.

Rexmanwolf

k, thanks for the advice rght now the guy is looking at the clip to see if i did anythng to it and will let me know wether i get my money back or not.

85TIIDEVIL

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I'm still curious about doing the S4 swap into a S5..?

If he wanted to convert the ENTIRE front end to a S4, even swapping in the RHD dash, steering, etc... Does the firewall have the holes to mount everything RHD or he'd have to change that tooo...?

And what harnesses aren't compatiable from the S5-S4 in the middle/rear half of the car...? What possibly wouldn't work..? Power windows, sunroof, taillights...?

Just out of curiousity...? Cause I DO have no idea..?

Forget it... I did a search, found my own answers and theres still 50 more threads I didn't read...

Rexmanwolf

K, WELL, I GOT AN S5 WIRING HARNESS AND ECU AND ON THE LOOK OUT FOR A MOTOR, CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHAT ELSE I NEED FOR THE S5 1991 CONVERSION. ANYTHING WOULD HELP.

Rexmanwolf

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