Need Lifeline, Help please!!
09-25-03, 08:24 AM
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Need Lifeline, Help please!!
Doing a flush and fill my car was beeping like every second and I shut the the engine off. It won't start and the starter only clicks. Battery and starter checked out good, got new wires and plugs. What do I check next?
09-25-03, 08:30 AM
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Its possible your starter might have a spot were it gets stuck on the fly wheel.... I had that problem once...Have some friends push start you and then you'll know
keep us informed
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09-25-03, 08:32 AM
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was the low coolant idiot light going, that causes a beep. that is the sensor on the top of the rad.
Take the negative battery off for a few minutes. But it back on really well, and try it. It sounds like its low on juice. Are you sure that no wires were knocked off during the drain and fill.
What year and model is it?
Take the negative battery off for a few minutes. But it back on really well, and try it. It sounds like its low on juice. Are you sure that no wires were knocked off during the drain and fill.
What year and model is it?
09-25-03, 09:26 AM
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try giving it a tap with something.
sometimes, the solenoid contacts get corroded and the juice does not get to the starter motor.
or you are on a dead spot and the starter ain't gonna turn even with juice flowing.
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sometimes, the solenoid contacts get corroded and the juice does not get to the starter motor.
or you are on a dead spot and the starter ain't gonna turn even with juice flowing.
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09-25-03, 12:35 PM
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Ok, I hit it, beat it and everything else! Starter sounds different, strong click then faint click and the battery cables feel extra warm. I was thinking a short somewhere but fuses look good 
I can't stand giving up!
I can't stand giving up!
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Check the wiring:
from battery + to B terminal on the switch
from M terminal on switch to starter
I assume the starter assembly is properly grounded (should be)
Make sure battery is fully charged
If checks out ok, most likely the starter needs to be replaced.
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from battery + to B terminal on the switch
from M terminal on switch to starter
I assume the starter assembly is properly grounded (should be)
Make sure battery is fully charged
If checks out ok, most likely the starter needs to be replaced.
Hugues -
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Check the wiring:
from battery + to B terminal on the switch
from M terminal on switch to starter
I assume the starter assembly is properly grounded (should be)
Check the battery:
is it fully charged ?
If checks out ok, most likely the starter needs to be replaced. You can get one, try it, and if it does same thing, just return it for refund.
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from battery + to B terminal on the switch
from M terminal on switch to starter
I assume the starter assembly is properly grounded (should be)
Check the battery:
is it fully charged ?
If checks out ok, most likely the starter needs to be replaced. You can get one, try it, and if it does same thing, just return it for refund.
Hugues -
09-25-03, 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by hugues
Check the wiring:
from battery + to B terminal on the switch
from M terminal on switch to starter
I assume the starter assembly is properly grounded (should be)
Check the battery:
is it fully charged ?
If checks out ok, most likely the starter needs to be replaced. You can get one, try it, and if it does same thing, just return it for refund.
Hugues -
Check the wiring:
from battery + to B terminal on the switch
from M terminal on switch to starter
I assume the starter assembly is properly grounded (should be)
Check the battery:
is it fully charged ?
If checks out ok, most likely the starter needs to be replaced. You can get one, try it, and if it does same thing, just return it for refund.
Hugues -
12.0 volts @ B & M terminals. Meter doesn't register steady voltage @ S terminal- no where near 12.0 and measured low resistance between each- 0 between B&M- good. Thank you.
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a good battery would register 12.6 volts, 2.1 volts per cell. a battery at 12 volts even is at less than 50% ca capacity if i remember correctly.
if your terminals are tight and free of corrosion, your starter is wired properly (one big wire, one small) and you hear the relay energizing (not the solenoid), you more than likely need a rebuild. Ive read you already used then hammer technique, and this may be the only time i dont tell you to use a bigger one. That technique is usually good for one time only. Good thing is anyone could take off one of these starters, 14mm - 12mm sockets, 3/8 rachet and your set. take it down to the nearest rebuilder and 70$ later your rollin. hope this helps.
if your terminals are tight and free of corrosion, your starter is wired properly (one big wire, one small) and you hear the relay energizing (not the solenoid), you more than likely need a rebuild. Ive read you already used then hammer technique, and this may be the only time i dont tell you to use a bigger one. That technique is usually good for one time only. Good thing is anyone could take off one of these starters, 14mm - 12mm sockets, 3/8 rachet and your set. take it down to the nearest rebuilder and 70$ later your rollin. hope this helps.
09-26-03, 10:03 AM
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Thanks for the input. Looking at the test numbers, it should work but I don't see another problem keeping it from starting. I'll order a new starter today and have tools to put it on. 
09-26-03, 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by SevenGirl
and the battery cables feel extra warm.
and the battery cables feel extra warm.
The heat in the cable should not happen.
It means there is resistance (voltage drop) right near the hottest place.
A common failure point is where the terminal joins the cable.
It can corrode inside and still look good.
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Originally posted by SureShot
You are on it.
The heat in the cable should not happen.
It means there is resistance (voltage drop) right near the hottest place.
A common failure point is where the terminal joins the cable.
It can corrode inside and still look good.
You are on it.
The heat in the cable should not happen.
It means there is resistance (voltage drop) right near the hottest place.
A common failure point is where the terminal joins the cable.
It can corrode inside and still look good.
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SureShot, Hugues thank you both New wiring is on the To-do list anyway. I'll get the battery cables changed first. Thanks a zillion for your help and saving me tons of dollars
New wiring is on the To-do list anyway. I'll get the battery cables changed first. Thanks a zillion for your help and saving me tons of dollars
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