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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 02:36 PM
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n2o and rotary??? is it good or bad

just wondering i was thinking of spraying my vert and i was curious how a rotary reacts to nitrous?? if anyone on here has done it let me know what setup your running, im looking for idears thanks


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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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i just scoped out a nx wet kit.. but i dunno the difference between wet or dry
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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Wet mixes fuel and nitrous. A dry system adds more fuel via the injectors. Its then controlled by a aftermarket ECU or regulator.
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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i see. so i will have to buy an ecu if i wanna spray?
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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If you ask that kinda question, you should read up on it and become somewhat familiar.

http://www.1300cc.com has some information.
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 03:37 PM
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ok i read that, it says our injectors r bein pushed as far as they can already,, and that i need to change my fuel pump and reg?? cant i just get bigger injectors and get a chip for the ecu or sumthing,, it sounds noob i know but i was just curious
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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uh.. right..

If your going Nitrous, I'd reccomend a 50, or max 75 shot. Use a wet kit (injects fuel with the nitrous via is own injector, since like you siad our injectors are maxed). Anything above that and you'll have to upgrade your fuel pump and regulator to supply enough. Check out Summit Racing they've got a lottt of nitrous kits.
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 03:52 PM
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Essentials:

1. Fuel Pump
2. Wet Nitrous Kit

Don't assume the stock pump will support a 50-75 shot. Also, there doesn't seem to be a huge price difference between the Dry and Wet kits. If your gonna spend $500+ on a new kit, get the wet.
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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i run a wet 50 and 75 shot on my s5 n/a. I just used a walbaro 255 and spliced into the return line on the secondary fuel rail to supply fuel to the solenoid. Also sent my injectors off to cruzinperformance for cleaning. So far nothin bad has happened, and i only use it occasionaly at the track
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jono20
uh.. right..

If your going Nitrous, I'd reccomend a 50, or max 75 shot. Use a wet kit (injects fuel with the nitrous via is own injector, since like you siad our injectors are maxed). Anything above that and you'll have to upgrade your fuel pump and regulator to supply enough. Check out Summit Racing they've got a lottt of nitrous kits.
Er, for the best tuning use a fuel pressure regulator and make SURE you have an upgraded fuel pump. Nitrous need fuel to run properly.

Don't forget little things like purge too, keep them lines clear .
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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Do a search for "nitrous" and "Scathcart". There are some REALLY good threads by him.

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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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If I may ask, why?
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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If I may ask, why?

Lot of bang for little buck.
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JStewart
i run a wet 50 and 75 shot on my s5 n/a. I just used a walbaro 255 and spliced into the return line on the secondary fuel rail to supply fuel to the solenoid. Also sent my injectors off to cruzinperformance for cleaning. So far nothin bad has happened, and i only use it occasionaly at the track
DO NOT splice the fuel feed line into the return line on the stock system.
The return line is under almost no pressure... and as the revs go up, fuel supplied to it decreases dramatically.

This will blow your engine instantly.
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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i think you should think of nitrous just like a turbo, after all they do the same thing to the engine (add air), well if you add air you have to add fuel to avoid a lean mixture (lack of fuel) which can cause detonation and **** your engine up. that's why people suggest a fuel pump, and the injectors won't need to be bigger if you run a wet system because it has it's own fuel injector, i think you can modify the banjo bolt that connects to the end of the fuel rail to have a feed for the wet system injector, or maybe you replace the pulsation damper with a banjo bolt. idk, but watch out for detonation.
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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If I may ask, why?
Because the bottle rocks?
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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Because the bottle rocks?
But so does a nicely tuned rotary.
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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But so does a nicely tuned rotary.
But not as much as a nicely tuned rotary WITH nitrous!
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Get a turbo.. Its like nitrous without ever having to fill a bottle...
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 08:59 PM
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ok sumone make a list of what il need for a good nitrous setup, this happening b4 new years, and im thinking of upgrading my ignition due to a slight miss between 500 and 2500 rpm's if u hold it steady
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by deetz
ok sumone make a list of what il need for a good nitrous setup, this happening b4 new years, and im thinking of upgrading my ignition due to a slight miss between 500 and 2500 rpm's if u hold it steady
That's probbaly your TPS...
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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oh ok FSM for that i was still thinking should i upgrade the ign as well as the fuel system, i need a good steady spark to go with the fuel and air increase
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by HHTurboVert
But not as much as a nicely tuned rotary WITH nitrous!
Yes, I love Nitrous.

http://www.1300cc.com has a basic writeup to get you started deetz.
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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ok sumone make a list of what il need for a good nitrous setup, this happening b4 new years, and im thinking of upgrading my ignition due to a slight miss between 500 and 2500 rpm's if u hold it steady
Fix the car, then PM me.
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