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Old 12-03-10, 11:33 PM
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N/A wheel hub same as the TII? **Already Searched**

Hey all,

I already searched for this topic on google, yahoo and also on this forum, but cannot find any info on this.

Are the N/A wheel hub same as the TII?

If they are,

are the splines different in the wheel hub.

What i am trying to do is add a tII differential in my miata, but im having a hard time finding TII wheel hubs. If i can use the N/A ones, that would save me time!

Much appreciation!
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I am alittle confused by your question. When you say wheel hub I assume you mean the part the wheel bolts to. If I understand the differential swap correctly these aren't even touched so I don't understand why you need them. If you are refering to the axle stubs, the part that sticks out of the diff( that the half-shafts bolt to) they are different between the n/a and TII.
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The wheel hub, meaning the part that bolts to the wheel... They are and aren't interchangeable.

I know the TII and vert hubs are the same. I believe there is another NA model that was also interchangable as well. If it is 5 lug, it'll fit.

As Dak said, you need the TII axle stubs, but hopefully those came with your diff when you bought it.
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I have a 1993 Mazda Miata and i am going rotary(13BREW).

What i need is a stronger differential because the stock differential is:
-Weak and will not withstand turbo or stock 13BREW power
-6" diff which is to small
-Weak axles. Break on load

Solution is to go s4 Tii Differential with Tii Halfshafts:
- Bolts right up to my subframe
- Solution to withstand 13BREW power

Problem:
- The splines of the miata wheel hub will not support the TII Halfshafts male side.

Solution to the problem:
- Find a way to make the TII halfshafts work with my stock miata hub.
- The only way to do this is to machine down a TII Wheel hub to fit the miata hub housing.

So if the n/a 5 lugged wheel hubs are the same as the TII wheel hubs, then i am in business and wont have a hard time finding those because they are everywhere in my local wrecking yard.

If that clarified confusion, please help!

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From what little searching I did last night it looked like they were using '94-'95 Miata halfshafts as they bolt to the rx7 axle stubs. This was on a n/a rx7 diff. What you probably need to know is, is the bolt pattern on the n/a and TII axle stubs the same. From what I read it is the 6" ring gear that was the weak link. The n/a Rx7 is a 7" and the TII an 8". I didn't search to find how much the Miata shafts will handle but Google is your friend.


http://miataturbo.wikidot.com/differential
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...AAAKoEBU_QjHLi
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I dont have the parts in front of me but from what I remember the bolt spacing for where the axle bolts to the stub shaft was slightly larger on the turbo units.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm. I never thought about that. If the 94-95 Miata halfshafts bolts up to the tii differential, I don't have to modify my wheel hubs. I'll have to search around. Any more help would be great
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Ok that solution will not work with a 94-95 halfshafts with a tii differential, source was from Solomiata.com. If anyone can tell me if the na wheel hubs are the same as the tii, please let me know
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I thought all 5 lug spindles are the same?
My TII halfshafts works with my GTUs rear spindle. It slides in perfect.
When I changed from the 4.3 diff to the TII 4.1 diff, only thing I changed was the halfshafts because you have to run TII halfshafts to bolt to the stubs, the spindle part slides right in.
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I was trying to read online and see if anything changed in the rear end of all trim levels of the 2nd gen rx-7, but did not find anything. If all the trim levels have the same rear end, then i am in business. Thanks blacknight for that info. If anyone can double confirm this, that will be great!
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Where the shaft Enters the hub?..it is the SAME size.
So the N/a and TII axles can slip into the Same hub,whether it be a four bolt or five bolt wheel hub.
The Part of the axle that connects to the Diff is different on a TII compared to an N/A.That is why you have to change the whole *** end out when you Convert N/A to TII.(Diff and Half shafts.
The driveshaft can be made up to go in between the TII Diff to N/a Trans or Vice Versa.Mazdatrix sells a Conversion shaft.
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Bro thanks for clarifying that thanks and thanks to everyone else as well
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Bro thanks for clarifying that thanks and thanks to everyone else as well
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