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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 07:14 PM
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n/a power?

i need a drifter,i broke my fd learing to drift. is there any chance at gettting around 200 hp from a n/a fc with a 2 or 3 thousand dollar budget? how much power can you get by porting a n/a motor. and for all you kno it all diKs who are about to reply, " there's no magic number for how much hp you can get with 2 or 3 g's." juss STFU! i juss need a car with enough torque and hp to drive sideways a lot without revving the **** out of the motor.
Old Jun 29, 2003 | 07:46 PM
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Put in a stock 13b NA motor in it and then buy 4 spare tire donuts to put on it.....you will get sideways whenever u want to!

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PS- This is a dirty post isn't it? I am sorry...I feel dirty now...this is my first flame-like post on the forum...

PSS- 200hp in an NA fc is not hard at all. Streetported NA 13b with straight through exhaust and a cone filter will be well above 200 hp.
Old Jun 29, 2003 | 08:52 PM
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You don't need power to get the car sideways. Once you learn to drift (this is not a flame so don't start a war please) more efficiently you'll realize that. All you need to drift a car is the right setup (suspension)...that's much more important than how much hp/tq that you have in the motor.

Anyway, as for your question about the 13B N/A...yes you can get 200hp from the engine quite easily after you port it . Sorry if you feel like I'm being ignorant, but i'm just stating the facts...sometimes the truth hurts. I'd expect anyone else to do the same to me.

How did you break your FD anyhow...what exactly did you break? Also were you at a contest/event or were you just sliding around on the street for fun at the time? Fess up
Old Jun 29, 2003 | 08:52 PM
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You don't need power to get the car sideways. Once you learn to drift (this is not a flame so don't start a war please) more efficiently you'll realize that. All you need to drift a car is the right setup (suspension)...that's much more important than how much hp/tq that you have in the motor.

Anyway, as for your question about the 13B N/A...yes you can get 200hp from the engine quite easily after you port it . Sorry if you feel like I'm being ignorant, but i'm just stating the facts...sometimes the truth hurts. I'd expect anyone else to do the same to me.

How did you break your FD anyhow...what exactly did you break? Also were you at a contest/event or were you just sliding around on the street for fun at the time? Fess up
Old Jun 29, 2003 | 09:03 PM
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Sorry, 200HP N/A (rear-wheel) ISN'T that easy. You'd need something more than a streetport and exhaust. Big Port (Ito, BP, or P-Port), fuel tuned by the torque curve, and a Tuned Collected exhaust are a nice place to START
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 07:53 AM
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i kno you dun need lots of power to drift. im not a pro but i can drift a stock fc stock suspension thru multiple turns. i just was curious as to how easy it is to acheive those figures with that budget. and i was on the street racing my friends m3 after he got some headwork done i was taking a second gear drift real hard, tires screeching then all the sudden i get no boost from my second turbo, my car still runs i juss thought it was time for extreme mods
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 07:54 AM
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does any1 else have any thought on the issue? is liquid right or just an angry person?
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 08:22 AM
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i hanvt done it yet, but i think it would be easier for you to get this setup done, cuz ur in usa. buy a s4 t2 JDM engine w/ tranny, remove the turbo, put a carb/intake manifoil on it, go straightpipe, do a bridgeport and put this in your car. u can also try to find 2 n/a rotors and counterweights to put in the t2 engine. you will have a beast after this.
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by MADBOOST
i kno you dun need lots of power to drift. im not a pro but i can drift a stock fc stock suspension thru multiple turns. i just was curious as to how easy it is to acheive those figures with that budget. and i was on the street racing my friends m3 after he got some headwork done i was taking a second gear drift real hard, tires screeching then all the sudden i get no boost from my second turbo, my car still runs i juss thought it was time for extreme mods

You are the biggest goddamn loser I've ever encountered on this board. Do us all a favour and don't reproduce.


Anyone else think this is a troll account? Nobody can be this bloody stupid in real life.
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 08:26 AM
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If you're going to drift an FC make sure you get a set of the toe eliminators for the rear susp.
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by MADBOOST
does any1 else have any thought on the issue? is liquid right or just an angry person?
Liquid is right.
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 11:44 AM
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My goal for my N/A is ~200rwhp. Let me tell you now that it will not be something easy or cheap. I am spending as much money for my goal N/A HP than I couldve used to buy a Turbo2. But I just like the N/A and think it will be cool. If all you are after is power, then by all means just get a turbo2, the N/A is by no means a HP monster. Fun as hell, reliable, free revving, yes. My goal for my N/A is to break 13s. You could do that on a turbo2 with not much more than an intake and full exhaust with a little more fuel.
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by Fingers
You are the biggest goddamn loser I've ever encountered on this board. Do us all a favour and don't reproduce.


Anyone else think this is a troll account? Nobody can be this bloody stupid in real life.
Common man, no flaming, you know better!
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 09:47 PM
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When it comes to the n/a cars, the stock afm will not flow enough air to make 200rwhp, without the aid of nitrous. I know because I'm maxing the stock one out, and only making 167rwhp on a mustang, or about 180ish on a dynoJet. Now if you where to go with a haltech/micro, you'ld come alot closer for shure. Boost is the only way to make power. CJ
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 09:50 PM
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 10:22 PM
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cmon yall keep talking... feed me this information lol i like this idea of 200+ horsies in a NA... would it be cheaper then doing a full swap of na to t2? im also going to drift but i like that 200 horsies range sounds nice i only have 130 and my car is fwd.. can only drift in the rain with the e-brake lol
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 10:29 PM
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It's possible, but not likely. That's why I'm trying for it.
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 10:43 PM
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Ive seen 160rwhp on a stock port S5 engine, with not all that many mods. Id think with a good sized port and some fuel tuning, ~190ish would be obtainable. I agree the AFM is starting to become the biggest bottleneck the more power you are making, and a standalone would help trmendously, if for no other reason than to elimintate the AFM. I wish there was a way that we could wire in mustang style sensors, where it just reads from a metal filament, there is almost no restriction.
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Originally posted by Rxmfn7
where it just reads from a metal filament, there is almost no restriction.
Vein type AFM....
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 10:48 PM
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hmmm some 200 horsies in a NA is really hard to do huh... damn... how much can 2000 dollars get ya LOL
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 10:51 PM
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damn lol hah what could i do though? is that with porting and exhaust and intake? what else am i missing... for 2000 maybe u can do some weird stuff... hey you know whats weird... an si has like 160hp and the rx-7 has 143 and the rx-7 would tear up on it wouldnt it?
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 10:52 PM
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i beg to differ, i know a guy that got 207.6rwhp on a large street port so those that dont believe 200rwhp is possible on a street port, there it is his n/a ran a 13.1, it does however weigh about 2250lbs as it has LOTS of weight reduction
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 10:53 PM
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hey if i can dip in to the low 14s or mid 14s i am happy with a NA but what would i have to do to get down there with an NA
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Originally posted by HawkINX4
hmmm some 200 horsies in a NA is really hard to do huh... damn... how much can 2000 dollars get ya LOL
If your really looking for serious power, I would look at some other path's besides an n/a 13B.



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