LLADNAR

well i am pretty sure that i got jacked on the engine i bought off of the internet,,and here in KS there is a shortage of turbo IIs but there is a wrecked N/A that i know of,,and you know it was obvously running to hit whatever it hit.

so can it be done,,i already have a FCD and 650 secondary injectors. and i can probably get this motor cheap

so what do ya think

Aaron Cake

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No.

No7Yet

Okay, then, arsehole, you pay for his new engine.



Yes, it's possible. You could concievably run the N/A block with all the turbo electronics and manifolding - all you'd have to "deal" with would be a short section of the intake (elimination of the turbo/IC) and the exhaust (you could use a stock N/A exhaust).

It would SUCK, though. Like, big hairy ugly smelly green monkey *****. It would get you to work, though...

Brandon

Aaron Cake

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Think about what you're saying. No, it won't work. The TII intake is 4 port, the NA block is 6 port. Higher compression which the TII ECU can't handle, you'd have to swap the front covers, etc. It would be a mess, and a really bad idea.

Felix Wankel

Its a ******* pain, but it will too work. Grab the entire engine, ECU, throttle cable, AFM and pressure sensor...

Edit: need to swap flywheels too.

No7Yet

Felix, I don't think he'd need all of that...

Empircal evidence suggests that the TII and N/A AFMs are only very slightly different, if at all. The TII ECU could run the engine just fine, assuming he replaced only the shortblock and LIM. Jury-rig the AFM onto the TB elbow. The TII pressure sensor is a two-bar unit, but it reads just fine from 0-1 bar, which is where the N/A motor operates....

thoughts?

Brandon

Felix Wankel

My thoughts are ''bad idea'' and ''I wouldn't even bother with it"

No7Yet

But what if his thoughts are "no money" and "free N/A engine"?

Brandon

Node

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then he should run the N/A as a N/A until he gets a new engine, shove it in, plug in N/A ECU, do some other stuff.
You don't want to try and make a N/A into a turboed engine.
Listen to Aaron Cake, he knows about doing that lol.

And I thought the T2 pressure/boost sensor went from 1-2 not from 0-2. RETed mentioned it somewhere but I don't remember.

Think of it as a T2 in hibernation, do other stuff or just save until you can afford a real T2 engine.

Evil Aviator

The last time that I checked, the salvage yard didn't give anything away for free.

LOL, I find it amazing that those who actually have a clue have been made out to be "arseholes". You gotta love the internet.

No7Yet

So I suppose I'm clueless? Whatever. Instead of answering the question, all he said was "No." If he were mightyslash you'd be calling him a postwhore.

I'm calling him an arsehole because he's both wrong and unhelpful - you CAN run an N/A block in a TII car. In fact, were it not for a too-good-to-pass-up deal, Brian Smith in P-cola would be doing precisely that.

Brandon

SoloIIdrift

In this case it might make sense to buy the N/A and carb it, so you could leave all the electronic's alone why waiting for your turbo motor.


***disclaimer***
I have no idea what I'm talking about

Mr Rotary

Sounds like a problem versa-vice. I hope that you get some helpful help & I hope you know what you're doing. Good luck.

Evil Aviator

Yes.

BoostedRotors

That's like putting a 4 cylinder in a 5.0 body because its cheaper. If you cant afford to put another TII in right now, take the bus til you can. Why settle?

LLADNAR

well i was just going to use the block,,i thought that the blocks were the same on the outside,,i would still use the turbo and everything else

rico05

HAve a look at the sticky threads at the top of the page. Aaron Cake is doing this, however it is taking a very long time and takes lots of custom fab stuff. Good luck in whatever you do!!

Node

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Different type of porting, different type of rotors, stricter exhaust, etc etc etc. Different engines, not worth turboing it like most people stated. But if you're really desperate and want to spend the time swapping it in as just an N/A then it won't be too hard (well it will be a pain in the *** but not compared to turboing the N/A)

Node

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postwhore lolol

No7Yet

Okay, let me put this simply for you: with the exception of the 6-ports, 13B-T and 13B motors are the same, dimensionally. One can mate a TII UIM to an N/A LIM. If he wants to use the turbo, he'll have to fab coolant and oil lines - that's it.

In fact, there's some speculation that with the extended intake port timing, a TII'd N/A would run very well in the high-end.

In short, if he wants to do it, and it's cheap, and he's not afraid of a little work, it is very possible to sub an N/A shortblock for the TII one.

Again, a "postwhorish" post with absolutely no value. Not even really worth a response, except to say that it IMO one shouldn't make claims as such without some substantiation. Could you please explain why I'm "clueless", "Evil Avator"?

In fact, I think I'll modify my policies a tad...

Brandon