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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 06:56 AM
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My TII water temp gauge shoots to max on idling

Upon starting my TII, after 3 minutes idling, the water temp jumps from rest to maximum within 3 seconds. This cant be right as i can still touch the engine, its not even warm! I suspect the water temp sensor is faulty. I disconected the sender, the temp drop to zero. Any suggestion on this problem please?
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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Change the sending unit. They don't cost much.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 09:59 AM
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While you are there, also put in a new thermostat.
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 01:01 AM
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Change the sending unit. They don't cost much.
Find the problem, then spend money (if necessary). Not the other way around. Troubleshooting 101.

It's very unlikely the sender is at fault. It sounds more like the wire has fallen off the sender and has grounded on something, causing a full-scale reading.
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 05:36 AM
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Reading 101

"I disconected the sender, the temp drop to zero"

This clearly indicates that the wire did not fall off, and is about as much troubleshooting that can be done. He has identified the issue now needs to buy the part.

The sending unit is no where near the thermostat, so I see no "while you are there" senario either
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 06:33 AM
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water temp sender

Thanks a lot guys. I took out the sender unit this afternoon. It was not easy to reach. I got a new sender, unfortunately while trying to install it, i accidently snap the top portion - the metal connector, as i was trying to tighten the sender. So i have to buy anoter one tommoro. This time i will have to do it in a much slower time.. hope it will work.. cheers
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Banzai-Racing
Reading 101
You're absolutely right, I paid more attention to the second post than the first. My bad.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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If using an aftermarket gauge, what are normal operating temps for a t2 motor under both cruising and spirited driving?
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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180°F to 210°F is normal, 220°F is pushing it and over 250°F is fubar.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 11:26 PM
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where is the coolant temp sensor located
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 11:36 PM
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 11:49 PM
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sweet thanks
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 09:51 AM
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temp ) to max in 1 minute

Hi Guys, this is interesting! I changed the temp sender twice with new ones, makes no difference. After one minute idling, the water temp moves from rest to max within 3-5 seconds. Take off the connector the temp drop back to zero. I now suppose that the problem is not the sender. Means the most probable fault is the gauge itself. Does that sound logic? Has anyone outhere came across this problem? I will be taking off the instrument panel next.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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Did you make a TII swap by any chance?
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 06:14 AM
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Occasionally the gauge will go bad, you can swap one out of another cluster if you have one. I recently had the same issue with an oil pressure gauge.
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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That's the coolant sender gauge??? Geez, yep, that's what the manual says. Can someone tell me what the sensor is that connects either to the water pump or front housing right near the thermostat? i replaced that thinking that's why my temp sensor wasn't functioning :/ my aftermarket water temp sensor fits in that area, too, lol
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
Find the problem, then spend money (if necessary). Not the other way around. Troubleshooting 101.

It's very unlikely the sender is at fault. It sounds more like the wire has fallen off the sender and has grounded on something, causing a full-scale reading.
i agree with what you are saying to an extent. if certain things havent been replaced in a while (like thermostat) theres no harm in replacing it before it fails and then you can rule that out as well
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo II
180°F to 210°F is normal, 220°F is pushing it and over 250°F is fubar.
Thanks for the info, I just installed my new gauges and was curious.
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by j0rd4n
Can someone tell me what the sensor is that connects either to the water pump or front housing right near the thermostat?
It's the ECU's thermosensor. Do not remove it or replace it with anything else.
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
It's the ECU's thermosensor. Do not remove it or replace it with anything else.
Interesting, what does this do, then? I didn't replace it with the water temp sensor, as it wouldn't really fit threading-wise, but I did replace it with a replacement part from Advance Auto Parts.
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by j0rd4n
Interesting, what does this do, then? I didn't replace it with the water temp sensor, as it wouldn't really fit threading-wise, but I did replace it with a replacement part from Advance Auto Parts.
It's the sensor the ECU uses to determine the temp of the engine and adjust the A/F ratio accordingly. Very important.
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