My5ABaby

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I don't care how good a car handles because with the roads around here (or all public roads in general), if it's really low you're retarded.



I've had my car scrape and it's stock. Stupid *** parking garage entrances...

Risky Devil

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You posted cars on the track so obviously I was inclined to bring up as
many stock chassis - circuit cars as I could. Same goes with street cars,
Just because " YOU " think its too low , doesn't mean anything. Your
misguiding these people on this forum, I've driven plently of slammed RX-7s
and your saying just because its too low in your opinion, and scrapes on the
street means your saying i'm also bottom out my shock? and the valving
is set up improperly?

Oh since its too low and still handles great!
it has to be a race car and the shock mounts are modified!

Let's see your car Anti-Rotor, Show me what you know and
how your car is a plain example of what you speak about.

theantirotor

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Actually, I simply said that roads have bumps (as do most tracks) You know, bumps. Like pot holes, curbs, speed bumps, and any number of other things that make suspension move. But how can the suspension do its job, if the car in question is slammed? How much actual suspension travel does the average slammed FC have? On that note, do you know what happens when a car with almost no suspension travel left goes up on an apex? It will get more unsettled than a car with more suspension travel. When your travel is all gone you might hit off a bump stop and transfer the energy straight into the car. Or maybe you will rub a fender lip or inner fender and cut your tire?

I suppose that is all just fairy tales and make believe though. It doesnt happen in real life, right?

Draw conclusions?? I don't recall mentioning bottoming out shocks at all?? Valving? When did I mention valving?

Clearly, you have a reading comprehension problem. I didn't say anything about shock mounts being modified. Read the thread again, and realize that was someone else.

Wtf are you talking about? What would a picture of my car prove? That it doesn't drag the ground?

So the way you talk it would seem it is better to slam your car than properly corner weight it? Is that it?



Not that it will make any difference to you, but a lot of my information about not being a dumbass and threading coilovers to the lowest setting possible came from Drew Kellet, who set up many a winning Spec Miata for Jim Daniels Racing. I had my Spec Miata too low when I first set it up. He told me I was wrong and explained it to me. I believe him far more than you.

theantirotor

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Here, this is a pic of my old SM. Notice how unslammed it is.

Valkyrie

You can slam a race car all you want because the springs are twice as stiff.

Stiff = won't bottom out as easily.

Plus, on a race car, they don't car so much about scraping up the splitters, as they are considered a consumable item. It's different when you've got a street car with much softer springs, and a 300-dollar front bumper that you paid for with your own, hard-earned money.

theantirotor

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Not to mention, I am sure the two race cars nighkids posted didnt just have their coils turned down low. Ever wonder why most race teams have suspension engineers?

S2-13BT

With the FLT-A2 coilovers you adjust ride height by way of the adjustable lower bracket, not the spring seat. This maintains suspension travel even with the car very low.

I'd say it looks good, and probably handles nicely too.

Nice work TiGeRC|aw

junito1

mine does.... i have4 same set up! thought i want the rear camber adjusters cause the rear wheels went hella negative when the drop. so its causing for understeer.. But not any understeer i cant erase... =D *wink*

TiGeRC|aw

Ya it handled like t @ a on the freeway, though some of the washes scared me a little hitting them as slow as 65mph. There's a section of road that's just paved beautifully that i hit about half a dozen times back and forth. The setup in the front though makes it real hard to get in and out of driveways at any considerable time. The right angle needs to be hit or i'll be scraping not just the bottom, but the fender as well. Makes me cry everything i hear that noise.

I didn't think so much fightning would be going on about this thread, hah. I just wanted to show you guys some pictures.

cdaleracer669

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my thoughts exactly. one of the reasons why i am going to go with this setup

slow_2ed_gen

that things sittin too high man you gotta heat thoes springs up son

fcdrifter13

That has to be the highest setting miata I have ever seen. ANd if you guys are talking about the suspension stroke being to short I doubt that, Even as low as he had it the suspansion still has plenty of room to go though its cycles on a paved road with minor bumps or a track, anything rougher and he will have to start to worry.

One of my old t2s had a tein setup and of course i dropped it to see how low it would go. It tucked the tires nicely but still had more than enough stroke. The spring rates are much higher than stock also and helps take away most of the worry. And also the damper being stiffer also. Just because it is low does not mean it is gonna bottom out the suspension. There are to many factors to determine when a persons suspension is going to bottom out because every set up is different.

yusoslo

Yes the JIC's have an adjustable shock mount so you can lower it seperate of that of the spring perch. So you dont loose shock travel when you drop the car.........great idea


Now lowering your car that low can mess up suspension geometery, if you go too low you can and will mess up your cars Roll center, if you go beyond an optimal roll center than the chassis is doing all the work and you are eliminating the suspension

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fcdrifter13

well that didnt work for ****

theantirotor

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Man, too many smart people here for my blood...



Everyone slam your cars! They will handle AWESOME!


The lower the better.

Risky Devil

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Anti-ROTARD -

Judging by the picture , it looks old.
That means your pretty old -- Sad , you haven't learned anything over the years.

I'll let this thread pass over to you, You already killed it, finish it off.

i'm done here

slow_2ed_gen

yummm taste the sarcasm...

fcdrifter13

That Miata has to be sitting up higher than stock. And don't even try to tell me that Mazda fucked up and set it to low from the factory. So much ignorance in this thread its ridiculous.