I don't know how it works on your car, but on mine they direct air to the rotor area. You may have the dust covers on, but they should still do something.

 

cool, if mine didnt work i would be inclined to do something like that too, but it does so its staying, redoing that whole panel sounds cool too.

i would use the composite or wood, you want the rebar to take the impact and not transmit it like a metal one might do

mike

 

I don't think anyone intends on getting into a accident. If they did, it would not be "accidental".

On that same level of thought, have you also removed the seatbelts? No point if you don't intend on getting in a crash. What about insurance? Guess you have no need for that either.

You can never predict someone else's driving ability, and you are naive to think you are completely safe. Removing a structural member of the frame is stupid, and I really hope you never learn why.

 

I feel so encouraged by you people. What a happy place this is.

 

i think its the blue, makes everyone moody

mike

 

I agree with scarthcart and the others... if there is one thing i Would put back in the car would have to be the font bumper...
To compensate I would simply buy aftermarket seats... or ditch the passenger one! cause that will save as much if not more weight!

 

I totally agree. You go out of your weigh to post useful and creditable information, and all you get is people rudiculing you.

For example, Awhile ago when I did the 5-lug swap, I started a thread posting that GXL sway-bars are a few mm beefier, and all i got was people bitching at me that the correct term is ANTI-sway bar.

We live in such a constructive world.

 

I think that everybody likes to feel bigger by ridiculing... everybody has gotten it and has given it here! my post was more of a contructive critisism more than anything
!

 

im sorry the forum has gotten so bad about **** like this...3 years ago it wasnt ever like this and you could actually get smart, nice people to help you with things...now its just a handful of good people and a bunch of losers who spend hours at a time on the forum looking for someone to make fun of or embarass or whatever it is they do...but they usually fail at it. i88integ...i like your style, you are a true rotary enthusist...keep up the good work i like hearing about that awesome fc.
btw, those muffler heat shields that kinda surround the mufflers...i find no use for them...you might want to concider removing them if you havent already..i did with no adverse affects in the past 2~3 years and im hard on my car. dont remeber how much they weight...but its something

 

No-one's disputing that, but there are smart thing to remove, and not-so-smart things. I mean, the rear sway bar?!

That's pretty much what I was going to say. "I've never had an accident" is a naive, head-in-the-sand attitude that you may later regret.

Who's ridiculing anyone? If you want to post on a forum (any forum), you have to expect people may think you're wrong. Constructive critisism is not ridicule. Why is everything that isn't glowing praise interpreted as a personal attack on the person and/or their car? I have a lot of respect for most of the work 88IntegraLS has done on his car, but in this case I strongly disagree with some of it. Simple as that.

Why has everyone gone so damn soft?

 

That sure is light. That is FB weights I suppose

Huh, so how does it handle with no rear sway bar?

When you say dash support you do not mean that round support tube that runs back there do you?

James

 

Let me express my sincere thanks to those of you who do not like my taste in suspension set-up and have expressed your thoughts. I was not aware that the rear anti-sway bar's absence could induce understeer, which the stock rear-steer would compensate for, at or above ~.5g lateral acceleration. Furthermore, I did not know that trail braking can compensate for mild understeer, nor could the absence of an LSD or rear wheel bias, however slight it may be.



So, if you don't mind me asking, why did my thread title "my FC weighs 2420 pounds" get your attention and "inventory of weight reduction" did not? I posted that exact list of removed items a few days ago in another thread, but you Turbo II drivers only contributed to this thread? Why is that? Is there some kind of motivation for replying to a thread with a weight listed, rather than a thread that outlines how to achieve that weight? Enlighten me. I'm kind of in need of advice you know. I mean, I didn't even know what a rear anti-sway bar did until you guys pointed out that it was bad to remove it.

 

Lots of haters here eh?

Jeff, you also might consider reinstalling the dash frame. That bar actually contributes to the chassis stiffness. Otherwise it is cool to know what it takes to get a 2400lb FC.

 

I would love to drive a 2400lbs FC at an Auto-X.

 

Heh, so would I, and I get to next season! My autocross wheels are 16x7.5's with 225-50-16 comp t/a's (thanks turbojeff!). It should be a fun car on the track.

More items on the list:

Aluminum flywheel (27-12lbs): 15
Header (mani/precats - header) 5
Aluminum spare (swap) 10


The car understeers too much so the rear bar is going back in when I put in the toe eliminators. The bar is lighter than I thought, however. On second inspection, I estimate 3 pounds with all hardware. I'm also going to build a crash brace / frame rail link out of fiberglass in the near future, which should be about 10 pounds. Hopefully it will end up right at 2400 in race trim and slightly more with spare, jack, tools, and oil.

 

Wow. That was a bit mean, don't you think? 'Could have been said in a 'positive manner', but who am I to judge.

 

My car has that nasty habit, so I know how you feel. Power off and other forms of weight transfer helps with it a tad.

Congrats on the light car.

 

damn the rear of your car weights more than the front, must make for good launches, my 88 TII weights 2515 and the front weights slightly more than the rear, my launches are very tricky

 

nice work.
There are somethings i wouldn't have removed...but thats me.

 

88Teg,

Get your rear back to Race Car tech and away from the haters here..

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Looks good!

PaulC

 

I dunno, I've just got a lot of respect for people who put as much work into a car as 88 has. Anyone here who has kept up with him and his build process has seen a lot of work go into that car. I too dont recommend removing the REAR sway bar. I hate understeer. Oversteer? I can deal with that.
Anyhow, good job 88. Your one of the useful posters on this forum.

 

Thanks. Once I get some experience with this thing on a course, maybe I can contribute to Race Car Tech a little more. The crowd there is very different.

This thing is so cool. I had a looong day today with a mid term exam, project presentation, and a bunch of other uncool stuff to deal with. When I finally got to leave campus at 7:00 tonight, I fired up the FC and ripped home, and I'm wearing a smile now! The car is not like it used to be . . having been lightened and ported. I love it and am looking forward to getting my RB header on it.

Okay, enough of that gushing from me . . But a built FC is one decent machine to have for fun drives and lightening your mood after a hard day.

 

i have seen a 1700lb fc with engine+tranny+fuel cell and full cage i though it weighted 1900lbs but its lighter, it should be a bit heavier after the driveshaft and rear diff gets put back in. (not really 100% sure if they are in or not, rear diff was getting welded the last I saw it)


this car does not have a rotary engine in it though

 

Than what's the point? Heh, jk, sounds like a fun machine...later

 

originally posted by 88integraxl
. . But a built FC is one decent machine to have for fun drives and lightening your mood after a hard day.



I'll drink to that