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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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Is it safe to bring my tII into a mazda dealership for a 60k tuneup?

A tuneup for my car is due and I dont have time to do it because of work and school.

Or should i just take it to a place like tripoint or rotaryshack here in socal?

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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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i know here in iowa the mazda dealer has a really good rotary mechanic he's been around and working on them for years took my car to them when i was still new to these cars and had him do diagnostic he had the car for about a half hour and told me what my problem was exactly so yeah they should have a good mechanic for your car that can work on it

i know if i couldnt get to something i would feel safe with my car going there but my pocket book wouldnt
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 09:04 PM
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well it is a coin toss when u bring your car into the stealership. most get way too much to do the easiest of things. there arent a whole lot of things that need to be done. oil change, plugs, wires, maybe tranny and diff flush and fill, look for leaks and check your fluids and belts condition. the stealership will probably $200+ just in labor let alone supplies. i would take an afternoon on the weekend hell even an evening and do it yourself. the only other things you may want to do it check and set tps and ignition timing. if these are things that you arent able to do yourself, you may want to learn and save a few bucks. i work at a dealership and i tell you that i dont and wont bring my vehicle in for anything other than tire alignments, i have seen way too many "oops"s. jusy my 2 cents.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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you could easily do a full 60k tune-up for like an hour at a time, taking maybe 3 hours total? and save like 100+ dollars....
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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I would post in the California/West forum and see if someone on here could do it for you, provided that they have a good reputation at least.

I would not go to the dealership unless you know for sure that they have a good rotary mechanic.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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WTF? It's just a tune up. Everybody acts like a rotary is a sensitive car. When you get down to the nitty gritty of things, it's stilla piece of ******* iron with 4 tires, a steering wheel and a motor. If they are doing a rebuild, yeah, you might not want to choose them. And I can guarantee you, that half the technicians in your typical dealership has at least 3 years of automotive experience, and some even....SHOCKER...have assosciates degrees in auto technology, AND have 200k in training alone.

PLEASE, stupid elitist owners.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 02:20 AM
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i agree
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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WTF? It's just a tune up. Everybody acts like a rotary is a sensitive car. When you get down to the nitty gritty of things, it's stilla piece of ******* iron with 4 tires, a steering wheel and a motor. If they are doing a rebuild, yeah, you might not want to choose them. And I can guarantee you, that half the technicians in your typical dealership has at least 3 years of automotive experience, and some even....SHOCKER...have assosciates degrees in auto technology, AND have 200k in training alone.

PLEASE, stupid elitist owners.

I think the question was more along the lines... Are they going to try to PIIDB if I take my car to them.

I mean ****, the Mazda Dealer around here wanted 120 bucks to do a fuel pressure check. That wouldn't have even taken them half an hour.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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some dealerships freak out when you bring an rx-7 to them anyway
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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I despise dealerships... my friend worked at a Volkswagen dealership and they told him specifically that if anyone brings in their car with no problem or a small problem that they were to make up a bigger more expensive problem. Ultimately that's why he quit, he wouldn't lie to people like they wanted.

Shady. That's all I'm sayin'. I'd rather tune my car personally. Just my .02!

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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DemonicPupil
I think the question was more along the lines... Are they going to try to PIIDB if I take my car to them.

I mean ****, the Mazda Dealer around here wanted 120 bucks to do a fuel pressure check. That wouldn't have even taken them half an hour.
You are paying flat rates for certain things. You are also paying for certain equipment and training for certain things also. Everything is not free in life.

And how do you know it would have taken them a half an hour. What if something really was wrong with the car, and said person was to stupid enough to figure out?

The dealership that I work at, we have three master mechanics, one guy with a 8 second mustang, 3 other guys with dirt track cars. They know there stuff, believe me.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Row-Tar-Eeeh
You are paying flat rates for certain things. You are also paying for certain equipment and training for certain things also. Everything is not free in life.

And how do you know it would have taken them a half an hour. What if something really was wrong with the car, and said person was to stupid enough to figure out?

The dealership that I work at, we have three master mechanics, one guy with a 8 second mustang, 3 other guys with dirt track cars. They know there stuff, believe me.

It's a MAZDA dealership with FSM's and exploded diagrams coming out of their ***. As for equipment, it was a hell of a lot cheaper for me to buy a decent pressure guage and test it myself.

I specifically asked for JUST a pressure check. I wanted nothing else done to the car. If said person was too stupid to put the guage on and run the test, they shouldn't be in the shop. I didn't ask for a diagnosis, just a pressure test.

Not all dealerships are blessed like yours may be. It's hard to find one that is reasonable and not trying to screw you over. It's an even bigger insult when you walk in and they treat you like the typical owner that doesn't know anything about their vehicle.

Hell, these idiots ordered the wrong part for me. TWICE, and I even gave them the correct part number. I mean ****...
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DemonicPupil
It's a MAZDA dealership with FSM's and exploded diagrams coming out of their ***. As for equipment, it was a hell of a lot cheaper for me to buy a decent pressure guage and test it myself.

I specifically asked for JUST a pressure check. I wanted nothing else done to the car. If said person was too stupid to put the guage on and run the test, they shouldn't be in the shop. I didn't ask for a diagnosis, just a pressure test.

Not all dealerships are blessed like yours may be. It's hard to find one that is reasonable and not trying to screw you over. It's an even bigger insult when you walk in and they treat you like the typical owner that doesn't know anything about their vehicle.

Hell, these idiots ordered the wrong part for me. TWICE, and I even gave them the correct part number. I mean ****...

SIMMA DOWN NOW!!!!

Our dealership is actually pretty decent. It's very small for chrysler and jeep. If someone comes in, they usually know exactly what they need. And the tech's in our shop, would rather not deal with lying to a customer to work on a whole bunch of craph that has no business being worked on.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Row-Tar-Eeeh
SIMMA DOWN NOW!!!!

Our dealership is actually pretty decent. It's very small for chrysler and jeep. If someone comes in, they usually know exactly what they need. And the tech's in our shop, would rather not deal with lying to a customer to work on a whole bunch of craph that has no business being worked on.

Sorry, dealerships work me up hehe.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 10:44 PM
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Sorry, dealerships work me up hehe.
No sweat man, I can understand. Dealerships fucked around with my mom, and they got a piece of my mind and my pops'.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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Just ask the service writer to put their best tech on your car, I worked at a mazda dealer and there are deffinently people that know what they are doing and some without a clue on a rotory.

BTW I'm so jelous you have a TII with 60k on it
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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Dealerships and Rx-7s are a different than the normal situation. With most cars, the dealership knows what they're doing but they're preying on ignorant customers. In the case of Rx-7s, a lot of times the mechanics are clueless and just mess **** up, while the customer is trusting them because they don't know what the problem is or they don't have time to mess with it. Granted, a 60k tuneup is nothing, but Mazda dealerships have earned their ignominy.

There's a local Mazda dealership that's notorious for ******* over rotary owners--even guys with Rx-8s bitch about this place.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 11:43 PM
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notveryhappyjack is right. Just ask for a Mastertech, or the best tech they've got. At the Mazda dealership i work at, the guys who don't know 7's or 8's, avoid working on them. So you will most likely get a good tech to work on it for you. A lot of guys at the dealerships like seeing 7's come in cause they don't get them as often. You'll be the talk of the shop and probably get treated well.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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$324 for a electrical diagnostic, then add on the fact that my car has alot more problems than they know and my best bet was to sell it. I towed it to another shop.....$423 for a 30 min. diag, plus parts, and labor. Never stepping to the Mazda dealership again. And yes, Mazda has contacted me for a tune as well. The only thing I'm sketchy about is replacing my tranny oil, because I've heared about how after putting in new oil, your tranny starts to slip.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Row-Tar-Eeeh
You are paying flat rates for certain things. You are also paying for certain equipment and training for certain things also. Everything is not free in life.

And how do you know it would have taken them a half an hour. What if something really was wrong with the car, and said person was to stupid enough to figure out?

The dealership that I work at, we have three master mechanics, one guy with a 8 second mustang, 3 other guys with dirt track cars. They know there stuff, believe me.
I am a strong believer that unless you dont mind getting ******* taken for all your money at the mazda dealership or alot of highpriced shops, you should be able to work on your own seven, and if you buy a seven with problems, dont even consider using it for a DD. In my personal opinion these cars are learning experiances and give good street cred when you all like, yeah, i work on my own rotary *Gasp*, and then everyone bows down to you and your all like, suck it bitch
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$324 for a electrical diagnostic, then add on the fact that my car has alot more problems than they know and my best bet was to sell it. I towed it to another shop.....$423 for a 30 min. diag, plus parts, and labor. Never stepping to the Mazda dealership again. And yes, Mazda has contacted me for a tune as well. The only thing I'm sketchy about is replacing my tranny oil, because I've heared about how after putting in new oil, your tranny starts to slip.
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