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Lsd that works for both N/A and TII S5?

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Old May 4, 2018 | 04:04 AM
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Lsd that works for both N/A and TII S5?

Hey I know this may sound like kind of a stupid question but are there any lsds that would work for both an NA and TII s5? Or are they to different to be able to do something like that?
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Old May 4, 2018 | 04:43 AM
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As long as you match the half shafts to the diff youll be good.
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Old May 4, 2018 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Fuhnortoner
As long as you match the half shafts to the diff youll be good.
you forgot the driveshaft
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Old May 4, 2018 | 11:06 AM
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Completely different. Halfshafts, driveshaft and internals. TII is larger.



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Old May 4, 2018 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by lduley
you forgot the driveshaft
Can you not bolt a TII D Shaft to a NA rear end? I thought it was just the transmission yoke that was different?
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Old May 5, 2018 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Fuhnortoner
Can you not bolt a TII D Shaft to a NA rear end? I thought it was just the transmission yoke that was different?
I believe the spacing for the driveshaft flange bolt holes is wider on the TII diff than on the N/A diff. But presumably one could redrill the holes. Or just swap an N/A flange to the TII driveshaft.

The driveshaft has to match the transmission, the rear flange on the driveshaft has to match the differential. I think.
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Old May 5, 2018 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by WondrousBread
I believe the spacing for the driveshaft flange bolt holes is wider on the TII diff than on the N/A diff. But presumably one could redrill the holes. Or just swap an N/A flange to the TII driveshaft.

The driveshaft has to match the transmission, the rear flange on the driveshaft has to match the differential. I think.
Yup
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Old May 5, 2018 | 11:36 PM
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Man, its been a while.
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Old May 6, 2018 | 08:26 AM
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Man, its been a while.
Thats what happens when you goto the dark side, you forget things lol
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Old May 6, 2018 | 10:33 AM
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There are aftermarket LSD's that can go into a NA diff housing.
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Old May 7, 2018 | 03:01 AM
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Thats what happens when you goto the dark side, you forget things lol
Still love the rotary engine, but iv'e never got so many compliments on my **** box.
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Old May 7, 2018 | 12:58 PM
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No factory Mazda differential is backwards compatible between NA and turbo. If you do one or the other you have to have the matching axles, drive shaft, and stub shafts.
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Old May 7, 2018 | 01:09 PM
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I guess if one really wanted an "interchangeable" rear axle, one would use this:

FC Ford 8.8 IRS - Complete Mount Kit w/ Axles

Mount a 8.8 rear where one could interchange rear gear ratios for whatever you need, at wutever power one needs.
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Old May 11, 2018 | 11:53 AM
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I've been really interested in the Ronin 8.8. But this got me wondering, are there any easier options? The MX5 community is pretty strong today and they have been doing all kinds of power adders to their chassis. Just thinking out loud here, they've got to have come across a plethora of rear end options. Considering the similarities between them and us, what can be learnt from them?
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Old May 12, 2018 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by manual123
I've been really interested in the Ronin 8.8. But this got me wondering, are there any easier options? The MX5 community is pretty strong today and they have been doing all kinds of power adders to their chassis. Just thinking out loud here, they've got to have come across a plethora of rear end options. Considering the similarities between them and us, what can be learnt from them?
The Miata has a few different rears, one weird 6" on earlier models, but most use the Miata Type M differential which is a 7" rear end, the same in the NA 1986-1991 RX-7s.

They tend to use S4 clutch type differentials out of 86-88 NAs or Torsen differentials.

Also consider the weight of their cars. Most Miatas are typically lighter then the average second generation RX-7, it's like when I had an LS1 RX-7. 03-04 Cobra guys where jacked to use straight axle 8.8's, LS1 RX-7 owners took the the Cobra IRS and ran them in a lighter chassis with tons of success. With that being said, Miata guys may not need as much "differential" as we do with weight factored in.

I think you're over thinking this cowboy. 8.8's are great for choices and aftermarket, otherwise you have two stock choices and the TII rear end is one of the best out there for stockish/powerful car.
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Old May 12, 2018 | 08:58 AM
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Excellent response Sir and I am afraid of overthinking it.

It would be nice to find someone with access to a lot of stock diffs that they could try finding other oem diffs with similar internals for drop in options. Like if we found out that Toyota diffs from 95-2000 tundras have the same ring gears but which different ratios etc. acknowledge that I’m an grossly oversimplifing this idea.

the 8.8 is really great but can be a bit much for a lot of people and even i was having a hard time justifing the work or cash required. When I step it up , it will be a 8.8.

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Old May 13, 2018 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by manual123
It would be nice to find someone with access to a lot of stock diffs that they could try finding other oem diffs with similar internals for drop in options. Like if we found out that Toyota diffs from 95-2000 tundras have the same ring gears but which different ratios etc. acknowledge that I’m an grossly oversimplifing this idea.
Kia Sportage front differential ring would fit, as well as a handful of B-series pick ups. But the thing you're going to find to be the issue is the long pinion on a FC3s. There are going to be a handful of 7" rear ends that'll "fit" in theory, but we really have the options through the aftermarket or through stock options.

You'll find the clutch type and the viscious that came with these cars are great fits for what most people would love to do. Some people like the torsion differentials as well.

I drove all 3 and honestly since I don't care or "push" my car to any limit, I couldn't tell you what the difference with driving.

I used a clutch type in my 400HP LS1 RX-7 and it seemed to work just fine.

I'd pick a flavor of what you'd like to do, swap it in, and be king for a day. What a time to be alive.
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Old May 16, 2018 | 06:59 PM
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Gotcha. I was aware of the Kia and the Mazda B series parts as they share more than that. If my memory serves me correct (and it doesn't often) the B- series transmission is what the turbo trans is a derivative of. I think there was some conjecture on the fact that it's just an old truck tranny.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you 100%. But perhaps its the maker in me that is thinking beyond my own needs and more into the greater idea. Not everyone wants to pay top cash for old rx7 parts (if you can even find them in your area) so maybe find more common derivatives to swap in. Hell I've even been thinking about ways in which some adaptor kit can be fabbed up that allows other aftermarket internals in the original case. I have some limited modeling, design, and fab skills along with offshore manufacturing access so just maybe?

What a time to be alive....you are 100% correct...100%
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