tandolla

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like the title says i am looking for someone that has had a successful NA-T. by "successful " i mean lasting maybe more then a few pulls down the freeway, or maybe lasted longer then a few months..
I have a few question to be asked over PM not in the thread so i dont get "this has been covered a million times" B.S.

dont be a smart *** about me saying successful NA-T!

I am just looking to do this till i get my other Turbo motor build done. i picked up a good running NA about a year ago and NA just isnt cutting it out any more, i want alittle boost till i get my main setup all ready to be put back in my other car.


Just PM if you are up for answer some question i have or might have along the way,

Thank you..

Scrims

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I've had one... lasted a few weeks before I put it back to NA (complicated reasons unrelated to the car itself).

But you saying you don't want the "It's been covered a million times BS" then I can only assume that you know it HAS been covered a million times and don't feel like searching or....?

AUGieDogie

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So your sig says 88 glx turbo 2. I'm guessing you turbo'd the glx. Blew the engine, and need it to drive untill the rebuild? OR do you mean you want to turbo an N/A and slip it into the body for now?

And if you are looking for someone who has turbo'd an n/a (6 port turbo) that would be our good friend AaronnCake.

2slow4stock

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I've done it. Now I have haltech e6k and needs to be tuned. I've gone through a few motors trail and errors, but I am very happy with 6 port turbos. It's not hard at all, once you make the kit yourself. You can use it on any n/a motor minus the prep work.

tandolla

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quoted from my original post.. "i picked up a good running NA about a year ago and NA just isnt cutting it out any more, i want alittle boost till i get my main setup all ready to be put back in my other car. "


gonna send you a PM here in a bit ask you a few question if you dont mind.

SirCygnus

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aaron cake.


end of discussion.

Gryffinwings

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+1, that guy knows the NA turbo route, like the back of his hand. In fact you should go to his site, he has a rather complete log with details and pictures of his build, also read the entire thing. http://www.aaroncake.net/

2slow4stock

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Go for it, Just keep you options open. There's too many ways to do it.

Barnett87GXL

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cheapest way is to swap all TII parts onto the N/A block.
so UIM, LIM (port-matched) turbo, exhaust manifold, ECU, Harness and Boost pressure sensor.

there are also small thing you will encounter like needing a TII secondary fuel rail, where to run oil and coolant lines etc.

PM me if you need questions answered. But for the best of the best PM Aaron Cake he knows what he's doing when it comes to 6-Port Turbo's.

misterstyx69

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just to quickly Jump in here.
although Aaron cake is a Great source of Info,I know that the guy gets alot of PM's( I tried that route!!)
So Honestly,it would be more beneficial to Post up Inquiries and have him Chime in,rather than Sit on your thumbs and wait for his reply!.
To the OP: I took a Totally N/A car and went "haywire" on it.It is now a Full TII drivetrain.suspension.,brakes,Fuel system,cooling system.Interior.and So on.
so If that was your Direction,you can Pm me all you want,I will answer what I can,Or Refer you to someone who can.I won't guess,though!.
Cheers STYX!~

tandolla

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thank you guys for the replys. i know what i am doing for the most part. there are just a few specific questions i wanted to ask someone. and yes i already have my TII drive line in the car, its been in there for a while now. im going to use all TII UIM, LIM, fuel rails... blah blah blah.. i have had 3 TII long blocks i have gotten for free in the past, all torn apart now, so TONS of extra TII parts.

if you have any more positive advice go ahead and keep it coming, but the thread was just to find someone i can ask question for. and i know aaron is swaped with PM's so i wasnt even going to atempt to ask him, thanks thought guys.

heartshapedbox

buddy of mine is running high compression all n/a internals turbo'd. its bridge ported and he is pushing 300whp. its his dd if im not mistaken. running on n/a rear end etc with no problems so far. anyways, do it!

2slow4stock

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Oil line you buy the oil filter adapter, or just T it off with the oil pressure sending unit. I've never had a problem. Coolant lines I took from the rear iron and put it back to the water pump nipple. You DON't need the coolant line to loop through the the bac, its only used to help in winter so it doesn't freeze up.

Also don't forget to plug the primary air bleeds on the middle iron. Are you using all stock parts? It's pretty easy, you only have to drill and tap 3 times and drill 1 hole in the front cover for the oil return (If that is a s5 motor)

RotaryEvolution

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you also know that turboing an n/a without supporting mods opens up other issues in the drivetrain, because the drivetrain was not built for turbo applications.

to start with you need to swap out the clutch, transmission, diff, axles and hubs then you can come back and ask how to turbo your n/a reliably. which is pretty damn simple, retard the timing about 5 degrees and get all the bolt ons off the turbo engine and port the turbo LIM to fit the 6 port block.

now how about you do some more searching instead of being a little bitch and opening up yet another one of these threads on the forum cluttering **** up. if you want to do it properly then ******* READ!

and btw, turboing a 20 year old non turbo engine is not doing the already borderline coolant seals any favors..

pss, if you don't want smartass comments then avoid telling people not to say them because you WILL get them just for saying that and acting like a *****!


this all has been covered.

hiroichi1515

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The way I ran my lines was teeing off the oil pressure sender using a -4an like to the stock feed line coming of the turbo with an adapter to -4an. I used the turbo II front cover so no drilling or anything there. Also the water lines go from the rear iron to the turbo, then the waterpump housing. I also removed the twinscroll system on the turbo manifold. Everything was straight forward. This is my 3rd one and is very well made, I have learned from my mistakes. The reason the last one blew was not because it was unreliable but because of my stupidity 12lbs on a old engine + stock TII timing on 9.4 rotors = bye bye seals. I suggest getting some kind of ems too. Rtek 2.1 has been working great for me.

tandolla

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well thanks for the info, both ways seem pretty legit to me. may i ask why you removed the twin scroll?

hiroichi1515

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1, to keep things simple, and 2 there was no where to connect it. I dont have anything emissions related, rats nest etc.

tandolla

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0o0 alright. now that you have removed the Twin scroll what is the boost like?

hiroichi1515

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My boost is between 5 and 7 lbs depending on the gear. I don't think that had anything to do with it though... My piping is 2.5 inches from the downpipe to the midpipe, then I am running the stock exhaust. The turbo inlet duct is 3 inches and placed outside the engine bay as well. Also my waste gate is ported a bit. I am trying to keep over-boosting to a minimum right now.

Jimmy2222

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Guys, Karack is a good guy. No reason to **** on him, he had good intentions, just kind of being a hypocrite by accident is all.

Just thought I'd chime in with that so he doesn't seem like that bad of a guy.

OP:

GL with build man, hope everything goes well. Would like to see some pics/vids when you're done.

KhanArtisT

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I guess I've had a "successful" NA-T. I don't think the conditions you described are indicative of a truly successful NA-T.

Post up any questions. Karack seems to be bitter at times, I wouldn't take him seriously. "Clutter **** up"? Really? lol...who gives a ****. I hope you don't browse old threads in your spare time. "Yay, a thread about a bad clutch slave, a blown engine or an electrical problem!"

jjwalker

Yeah, I remember Aaron breaking 2 NA transmissions in a months time. The driveline of an NA can't handle it.

And I agree with your last statement.

Barnett87GXL

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Aaron broke 2 N/A transmissions is because he was pushing 400+ whp and lots of torque. The N/A transmissions car stand up to moderate torture within reason.

jackhild59

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I think he ran that original N/A tranny for several years with 300-400 Hp and was damn proud of it! After he broke the original, the second one went pretty quickly.

For him apparently, breaking the N/A tranny was an acquired skill.

KhanArtisT

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Aaron Cake's car saw like two dragstrip visits with that setup in a long time, if that. He didn't do any other events and doesn't seem like the type to kick it sideways every turn, race on backroads or do high speed pulls on the highway.

I destroyed first gear in my NA transmission running 8 pounds with the car sideways. It can probably work for a while if driven easy...but thats no fun.