Look at these Dyno Numbers!!!!
01-26-03, 10:54 PM
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Look at these Dyno Numbers!!!!
These are from Atkins' Site. I'm looking at getting the Camden S/C. Check out the numbers they posted! Are these flywheel? They have to be right. 275 at the wheels at 9 psi! That would be like 325 fwhp! Any input here guys. http://www.atkinsrotary.com/dyno.htm
01-26-03, 11:04 PM
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Most likely at the flywheel.
Keep in mind that's all carbureted stuff... Might be a bit tricky to get something like that on there with fuel injection (aftermarket ECU a la Haltech, Electromotive, tec.)...
Looks like fun
Manolis
Keep in mind that's all carbureted stuff... Might be a bit tricky to get something like that on there with fuel injection (aftermarket ECU a la Haltech, Electromotive, tec.)...
Looks like fun
Manolis
01-27-03, 04:58 PM
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I'd have to know a lot more about the specifics of each setup to give you an educated answer. I thought about 6 pounds was all you could run on an n/a(6-port).
Those #s have to be at the flywheel.
You'll get more HP easier and cheaper with a 13BT.
Those #s have to be at the flywheel.
You'll get more HP easier and cheaper with a 13BT.
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Don't get a turbo motor. Turbochargers are proven to cause testicular cancer.
Get the supercharger and a big carb. The bigger your streetport, the better. And get a cat back (borla or RB). And a light flywheel.
Are you passing emissions now? It would not be terribly difficult to pull all the SC off and put all your old **** on to pass emissions. This is all on advice from a VERY reputable source (head buy at MazdaTrix... he does, after all, run a 9.83 quarter mile with a supercharged 3 rotor...).
Give them a call. See if you can talk to Dave, I think he is the head hauncho responsible for the SC setup.
And remember, turbo's cause cancer. really.
Get the supercharger and a big carb. The bigger your streetport, the better. And get a cat back (borla or RB). And a light flywheel.
Are you passing emissions now? It would not be terribly difficult to pull all the SC off and put all your old **** on to pass emissions. This is all on advice from a VERY reputable source (head buy at MazdaTrix... he does, after all, run a 9.83 quarter mile with a supercharged 3 rotor...).
Give them a call. See if you can talk to Dave, I think he is the head hauncho responsible for the SC setup.
And remember, turbo's cause cancer. really.
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Originally posted by HeffBoost
You'll get more HP easier and cheaper with a 13BT.
You'll get more HP easier and cheaper with a 13BT.
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you crazy, I've never hear of turbos causeing cancer, how, but the high pitched squell? Well if they I do I can think of ten other things that do and come in contact daily, just remeber EAT YOUR GREENS!!!
01-27-03, 11:13 PM
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Oh yes... swapping an FB front cover, a different intake manifold, a different fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator, and running premix is a LOT more difficult than a full 13BT swap...
The guy was asking for opinions and that was mine.
Granted I've seen worse, but it's these type of comments that give this forum a bad name.
These comments are somewhat helpful
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Ask the fellas at Mazdatrix about their Carbed SC setup; they abandonded an expensive FI system for a large carburetor.
Also, I just noticed that Camden Superchargers now has a new homepage, which they have this point in the Q&A section:
"11. Can I go with either a fuel injection setup or a naturally aspirated setup?
-You can do either setup, we also supply the kit to go from naturally aspirated to fuel injected here."
No doubt it will be quite expensive, but you should ask them about it anyway, or wait for them to put more info up on the website. They also say you can get more boost with a larger pulley, so you should inquire about what is the max speed you can run one of their blowers at (i.e. determine max boost).
I beleive the manifold they give you for a 6 port engine runs into the 6ports as well, so it'd probably be worth making one of those sleeves that ramps the air into the chamber (cause it'll alwasy be open). If you have your motor apart, there is a really good way to do this using a steel-putty-epoxy stuff.
I suppose if you are a REAL badass and want to drill a couple holes into your shiny new intake manifold, you might be able to work in electronic 6port activation.
There are a few things to consider, of course, if you want to go to a carb'ed setup. The ECU will not like to run without a TPS or OMP hooked up, so I think you need a distributor of sorts.
Also, I just noticed that Camden Superchargers now has a new homepage, which they have this point in the Q&A section:
"11. Can I go with either a fuel injection setup or a naturally aspirated setup?
-You can do either setup, we also supply the kit to go from naturally aspirated to fuel injected here."
No doubt it will be quite expensive, but you should ask them about it anyway, or wait for them to put more info up on the website. They also say you can get more boost with a larger pulley, so you should inquire about what is the max speed you can run one of their blowers at (i.e. determine max boost).
I beleive the manifold they give you for a 6 port engine runs into the 6ports as well, so it'd probably be worth making one of those sleeves that ramps the air into the chamber (cause it'll alwasy be open). If you have your motor apart, there is a really good way to do this using a steel-putty-epoxy stuff.
I suppose if you are a REAL badass and want to drill a couple holes into your shiny new intake manifold, you might be able to work in electronic 6port activation.
There are a few things to consider, of course, if you want to go to a carb'ed setup. The ECU will not like to run without a TPS or OMP hooked up, so I think you need a distributor of sorts.
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I have a friend that has been in contact with them several times. He has been planning on ordering a built engine and super charger. He isn't gonna be satisfired unless he has over 400 RWHP.
They said they can do that but it is gonna cost. And of course he will pay the price. He would sale his mother if he had too.
I, of course, have been trying to talk him in to getting the built engine and going with a custom turbo system. Compare 70% effeciency with a properly speced turbo than 50% with superchargers.
They said they can do that but it is gonna cost. And of course he will pay the price. He would sale his mother if he had too.
I, of course, have been trying to talk him in to getting the built engine and going with a custom turbo system. Compare 70% effeciency with a properly speced turbo than 50% with superchargers.
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