Ryde _Or_Die

Ya I know. I know someone that did an engine swap in his CRX. He had a shop put in a ZC or ZE engine(not too sure which one, but its a jspec). Cost him like $3800 installed and now he runs like mid 17s, lol.

MrBlack

yeah ive made tht mistake before. lessons learned
the neon shouldnt be any compitition. as for the delsol its a dohc, supposedly the same engine thats in the Si. ive had a tough time beliving that one though. i dont know much about the B16 but i thought the type that the Si has didnt come out until 97, 98....... stop me if im wrong though

Jimmy325i

wow mid 17's huh? lol my buddy (very misguided buddy) did an LS swap into a crx and still only pulls 16.1 all day long. He spent 3500 on that motor swap. He's got 10K into that crx and I'll still spank the **** out of him. Even at retail, (I got some parts free for favors and such) I still have about 2K into my entire car including purchase price. Actuall cost so far is only $1600. not bad for a 13 second car....

MrBlack

ok, my question was answered. i never expected to blow his doors off, thats the thing thats got me thinking.... power to weight. but im thinking the set of headers im installing should give me the edge, plus i'll have more torque (140ftibs). but its still gonna be close i think.

Jimmy325i

But you have an auto... I doubt you have line locks so its not like you can get your revs where you want them for a good launch.

My88Se

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youcould always do a neutral drop, thats what my friend always used to do in his eclipse when I raced him, blew his tranny thiugh, but once @3-4k shouldn't do too much damage.

gsracer

very wrong. Honda developed the first b16 way before 97. More like 91. The b16 is like GM's 350 or fords 302 in the Honda world. Well b series anything. Even though that's still pretty new as term of age, the aftermarket for the b series engine is huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge.

A ZC engine is a DOHC engine that is basically the predecesor to the b16. It is non vtec. Although a ZC in a crx should still pull 14's....I would just go with the 1st gen b16 for just a little more. 3800 dollars is umm....plain retarded. That's a lot, lot of money that company made from buying and installing a little ZC

MrBlack

no auto here.... just did the swap. thats not a real prob anymore.

MrBlack

got it. heh, didnt expect to get a history lesson on honda engines in a rotary forum. guess you really should know your enemy. didnt know the B series was that old.

jacobcartmill

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dont you have an NA?

who wont line up with an NA?
we can beat preludes too.

Gene

iTrader: (1)

The Del Sol VTEC won't be a "new" car with a new motor to blow, they stopped importing the things like 5 years ago. It will be a new car to his friend, but it's quite used.

As for the motor break-in stuff btw, I read a few places that some people swear the best way to break in a new motor is to beat the hell out of it (in a very scientific way of course) and it was backed up with some evedence. I wish I had the link.

Suds7

Jimmy, you have never gotten 100%, I don't give a **** what the afm reads with engine turned off, and I don't have a flapper I have a plunger (s5), back in the day when I was still n/a i ran true duals on the n/a pump and it would rev past the fuel cut and this is after I leaned it out 15%. You have never gotten above 60% afm, and you won't rule the all motor class next year, honduh guys get crazy in the real deal drag racing. Your 15 second slow boat to hell is a **** box, **** n/a's!

jacobcartmill

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hahaha, daaaaaamn.
it must suck to be at the top of the food chain jimmy.
we can all beat CRX's and GSR's too, friend, and we dont have a massive streetport and a "pegged" reading from our AFM.

Suds7

Jimmy you are delusional, the fastest n/a rx7 in the world is 14.1 check out rx7.com timeslips for the fastest rotarys in the world. My 300 horse turbo coupe runs 13's buddy, you aren't even CLOSE to 200 let alone 300. Biggest numbers I have EVER seen for an n/a were Pbnos13 or something who put down 163 at the wheels which is like 190, and this is with a streetport and more than what you did.


Get it through your head, n/a rots are SLOW you have a SLOWTARY! HAH!

jacobcartmill

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i want to see some time slips for this thing.

i want to see you prove that you've broken into the 13's naturally aspirated.

you'll be at the top of the your little food chain when you prove that you have a 13 second NA.

Poindexter10thae

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Thats because it was a ford

Poindexter10thae

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The only NA rotary capable of putting out more than 200hp is the Peripheral port engine sold by mazdatrix(http://www.mazdatrix.com/r-20.htm, yes someone else could build a similar engine but that is the first example I thought of). that thing isnt even streetable. On a Na rotary even with just a peripheral port you will be hard pressed to surpass the 200hp mark, if you plan to retain fuel injection, and anything but an alternator and waterpump, and dont plan on driving on the street. The all motor class is dominated by 10 second cars, you should either reconsider or do some serious preparations to your car.

importboi22

your friend is a goddamn moron if he has an LS motor in a CRX and runs a 16.1...... seriously he should be slapped for godsakes an LS teg is faster than that..... i would like to see your run a b20/vtec integra like my friends runs a 13.8 @ 101 i think not to sure i would have to check but hes runnin it all motor..... from my experience getting even a good street ported 4 port NA 1st gen into the low 14's w/o nitrous is perdy hard... jimmy i just think you swear your car is fast cuz you have yet to ride in another RX7.... **** i know my motor will smoke you and it gots 30 psi on the front and 90's on the rear.... and i know im not runnin no 13's cuz that teggie starts to whoop my *** after 60mph.... and ive whooped on many 2nd gen n/a rx7's there like warm ups for me... sorry but if you wanna be fast the worst choice is a second gen NA rx7.....

Jimmy325i

I really don't give a rats *** what all of you say. I should have access to a digital cam again here over christmas and I will be more than happy to take a pic of my s-afc reading 100%. I register 61.5% while driving normally and you are all fools to make such a big fuss over what I say because you will eat your words when I post my proof.

I'll line up against any of you turbo guys too... You don't scare me. Especially if you're not even breaking 12's. All motor classes around here don't have any 10 second cars in the import category. GSX's are not a problem off the line they get a little up on me but then when I hit second I take off from them. From 65mph I hit 100 before passing a regular 52' semi. I'm not full of ****, you just can't handle the idea of someone else doing what you can't do. Get over it!

importboi22

lol sure ya can..... maybe when im breakin my motor in ill drive down there to minnasota juss to burn your *** post it up on here and drive home

Steel

aren't we all supposed to like rx...nevermind <sigh>

Jimmy325i

C'mon down.... I'm not going anywhere.

I've also been in several other rx-7's. I have 4 other friends who drive second gens. I have the fastest of all of them.

You people seem to think I say things to sound big and important on here or something. Thats the only rationalization for how visciously you attack those who claim to do things you don't think are possible. I'm not a stupid HS'er looking for someone to envy me. I'm a 27yr old ex-army helicopter techncian who's been spinning wrenches for the last 20 years.

I have a hybrid 6-port motor with port matched and heavily ported lower intake manifold, big street port, header, full 2.5" open exhaust, s-afc, halmeter af30, ported intake elbow, 3" cone filter, TB mod, nothing but an alternator and a water pump, (funny, someone mentioned I'd need that setup when I already have it) e-fan, no vacuum ****, and LSD from a gxl. Walbro 255lph high volume fuel pump will be installed shortly after christmas allowing me to make power above my 8200rpm fuel cut. My car also scales out at 2400lbs even (how I managed a nice round # like that is beyond me)

I also have 11 years of driving experience.

You should all take a step back and think about what you say regarding what I say. I will not back down because what I say is truth and I am willing to back it up. Please kindly remove your heads from your asses and get back to the matter at hand.

And, Yes my buddy with the LS crx is a fool. We all laugh at him. LS integs running 6psi of boost on street tires still only put down a 15.1 at brainerd intl raceway. (which is where I'll be running next season)

dre_2ooo

MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE HEADERS INSTALLED WHEN YOU RACE.

.... then you will murderlize him

Jimmy325i

Dre, My car club is having a meet at jillians friday night. If you want to see the beast let me know in PM.

jacobcartmill

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i think you're full of ****.

and i'm gonna think that until you prove that you have a 13 second NA. so far, all you've told us is your mod list and how much your car weighs.
not to mention you are "at the top of the food chain."
the bottom line is you're gonna need about 200 at the wheels to get your 2400 lb car through the quartermile in 13 seconds.
lets see a dyno chart and a time slip partner.