MrBlack

so my friend swears up and down that his new car (he'll get it in two weeks) will wax the roads with mine. ive got a bonez intake, TB mod, Borla cat back with RB headers on the way (installed before he picks up his car). so overall what do you all think my chances would be?

BDoty311

Stock for stock would be a good race, advantage going to him alittle. Stock Del Sol VTEC runs a 15.8 1/4 mile, with your modifications you should take him down.

seventhgear

u will soo smoke him it wont even be funny. unless u chategorize urself as a bad driver.... but hey not many people admit it... lol jk ull get him good... tell him to put his money where his mouth is lol
just my opinion
jack

MrBlack

cool. yeah, i think his biggest advantage would be power to weight, but if its the same B16 that is in the civic si then he has like noooooo torque. just out of curiosity, what would a stock s5 run in the 1/4?

MrBlack

ok here's another.... what about a 96 neon with these mods...... 2.5inch cat back, hi flow muffler, CAI, upgrade to 52mmtb, 33%UDP, MP Pcm
he's claiming 140fwhp and low 15s. im not so sure about that..... let me know what you think

MazdaRx7Racer4Life

i'd say you'd whoop him. an fc's an fc, an its alot about driver, i raced a TII the other day and the guy took the advantage, im in my mildly modded na, but then he missed a gear and pussied out after 60,

I used to have a 4 banger mustang (my first car). I raced v8's who i would haul of the hole because of better timingonb the light, then they would sto and ask me :what do you got in that thing, i would just eack m y ss off.

gsracer

I'd be wary of the b16 that could. Yeah it has 115 foot pounds of torque, but then again who's to stop him from launching from 6k, that's what I did when I had my 99si I think it will be a good race.

importboi22

ya be wary of the b16's with itr cams and a good exhaust system ive seen b16 sols hit 14's and thats only 800 - 1000 dallors of mods .... for a 1.6 thats good imo...

Ryde _Or_Die

To be honest, he'd be very lucky if he could drive his car in the 15s stock. You should be in the mid 15s I'd say with your mods. Shouldn't be too bad of a race, but if you shift at redline you should beat him fairly easily.

Jimmy325i

I've seen lots of LS delslow's put down damn fast 15 second runs... lol pathetic little honduhs go home!

I have friends with highly modded neon r/t's that refuse to race me. These are guy running mid 14's. You should stomp the crap out of those stock neon piles of ****. Come to think of it not many people will even line up with me anymore. Its lonely at the top of the food chain.

The header and TB mod will cost you bottom end torque. A buddy of mine would pull harder with his bone stock car when I had open 2.5" pipes off my RB header and the TB mod done. I'd hit 6K and stomp his ***. Now that I have the hybrid motor and a monster street porting its not even close at any rpm range. I'm looking forward to my pineapple sleeves and custom 80mm single bore TB with single chamber plenum.

BTW: I hit a 61.5% air flow reading the other day. The highest one I've ever heard of on an N/A. 62% is what the afm reads when held completely open and the engine is off.

dr0x

He doesnt even have the car yet, he wont be pulling 15s stock. Try more like 16s He will bog the launch, or spin like a bitch.

Suds7

I have had 65%, don't get so arrogant.

Suds7

On the s-afc

Erik

my roomate used to have a 94 del sol vtec dohc, B16A
i-h-e

i used to race him in my 91n/a with intake, and N1 catback...

he'd beat me everytime...we are both good drivers...watch out!

MrBlack

youre talkin tghe neon or the del sol? i figured at redline i should be making good power. as for my headers how much would the s5 lose off bottom end? the guy at rotary performance told me i shouldnt lose too much becuse my 5th and 6th ports are actuated by solinoids, no need to worry about loss of back pressure.

87racer

if his is a brand new car..... race him that day..... if he runs it too hard it will blow, a guaranteed victory. U'll get him

dr0x

I wouldnt count on that. Many drag and race teams, the first trip the motor gets is a hard run down the track. Subaru rally team does like 200m break ins.

Mephis

I have a 1990 mazda Rx-7 (FC5S) with maraih cold air box , and corksport exhaust , auto tranny tho , if i time my shifts right can i smoke your avarage only mods alot of fiberglass and a pipe eclipse?

87racer

well iv heard many stories of cars going out the first day and blowing it. A brand new ford lightning, first day, straight from the dealership, blown, first run.... an expensive mistake if you ask me. might be harder to blow a smaller motor, less power... Perhaps..... good luck anyways

600HP CLUB

well if you think about it delsol vtec only really gots 127hp? it's a SOHC! i don't think their that fast, you can prolly take him and pretty sure of that, unless he got the dual over head cam then that's pretty even..

Ryde _Or_Die

I am talking about the Del Sol. My point was just not to shift too early, because I know of people with Rx7s that shift at like 5.5-6k.

Jimmy325i

Suds7, I was referring to normal driving with full power correction. (in my case thats a solid +4% across the board from 2500 up to 9K on the high side of the tps)

Want me to get arrogant and I'll mention the 9 (count them NINE!) times I've hit 100% under hard launch conditions. Pull your filter and open up that flapper door all the way and tell me what the s-afc reads. I'd be impressed if you can get it to 65% (seeing as both my runner and my parts afm's both maxed out at 62% while no air was flowing through them at the WO position. Show me a pic of the afc with a 0rpm reading and a 65% afm displayed. I bet you cant.

I'm sure my #'s will go up when I replace my fuel pump with one that can flow more than 8200rpms worth of fuel.

gsracer

errr....try 160. The del sol vtec is the first time honda showed the U.S. the b16. That would be a DOHC engine, likes to rev sky high. Redlines at 8k.

Look I know this is an rx7 board, but some of the information I'm seeing is scary. Don't the s5 n/a's make 160hp? What's the torque...130 something? That's not to far off what the b16 is making in a lighter chassis. Go ahead and assume you're going to blow his doors off, but don't be surprised if he pulls you.

87_Turbo_S4

I have a 95 DOHC 5-speed neon. With just intake, exhaust, and mopar pcm i ran 15.51. Neons may be girl cars, but they can wax up on some hondas.

Jimmy325i

I will admit that even though a mid 15 second run is pathetic, you would beat most of the fast & fagnostic looking cars around here. All the painted up riced out honduhs at the track here dial in for 16.0.

Its gonna be easy for me to amass a room full of trophies next year in all motor.